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Naked Mage = 30 Defense stat... ammm... what?

A topic by Not a Slave Trader created 16 days ago Views: 970 Replies: 20

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Not a Slave Trader16 days ago (2 edits)

I just decided to try to make the most possible DEF stat build in the whole game aaand... that's a funny situation.

Considering the fact that 15 DEF stat is quite a lot of armor then 30 DEF stat is... ammm... emm... i don't know... "I am fucking invinsible!!!" (MGR reference) i think + speed didn't even slow down much + can use Aqua Staff and even magic books if you can swap your shield very fast.
(BTW - no class other than Mage Timid Lona can achieve such a big numbers of DEF stat - - -> Timid Lona = Tank?)

- - Skills - -
+8 Timid Lona
+1 Masochist
- - Items - -
+ 3 Leather Shawl
+ 3 Sex Doll's Lingerie
+ 3 Sex Doll's Tiara
+4 Worn Cuircass
+4 Bone Shield
+4 Great Helms

8+1+3+3+3+4+4+4 = 30 Defense
(You need 3 body modifications to lower the STAmina helmet debuf or wear something else instead of Great Helms).

So...

Big Mom: WHY! WON'T! YOU! DIEEEE!!!
Timid Lona: Timidmachines, mom.
(I'm still thinking about that 8 DEF Timid Lona stat is kind of overpowered because even if you have Timid Lona perk and Masochist perk and without any part of armor = 9 DEF stat and if you have a Deep one race... welp = 15 DEF stat when you're naked).

annuilein16 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

the defense is fine also injuries will rapidly rip this defense down in short order if anything the big problem with mage lona is she is more likely to kill herself if anything

Not a Slave Trader16 days ago

Nah... this is not a problem because even if you get 2-3 injuries you still have a lot of defense. This build is broken because you can just spam lightnings and take only 1 dmg. The only thing that can penetrate you in any way is a halberd or saber the other weapons can't practically do it.

I also didn't understand why it doesn't work? Because it's veryyyy OP?

annuilein15 days ago (1 edit)

to explain that effect it protects the very bottom of your defense so if you wore the whole set you would have a minimum of 7 def no matter what just note that the effect should actually say Increases minimum defense. this is a reported issue with the translation

Not a Slave Trader15 days ago

So... it's kinda useless buff because 7 DEF stat won't give you much of a payoff. I mean - why would you have 7 emergency DEF stat that can't be penetrated if you can't run? It's like for example you had 20 DEF stat and take 4 injuries = 20-16 (because every DEF trauma -4) = 4 DEF, but if you have this set then your 4 DEF stat always = 7 DEF no matter what happend even if you have 0 DEF stat... buuuut just what's the point if you can't run away because your legs were broken too. Eh? On the Hell or DOOM difficulty you can't run away from the location if there is still a battle icon, the only option is a smoke bomb or smoke skill (Deep one) 7 DEF stat won't save you from a crowds of monsters if your legs are already broken, it'll just give you an extra 3 or 4 seconds to attack. The only benefit is only if you're sitting in smoke or in the bushes you take less damage... and that so.

It would make a lot more sense that you couldn't get any facial injury if you're wearing that heavy helmet especially when it weighs so much and imposes a major STA debuff while the Sex Doll Tiara has 3 DEF without any debuff... 1 defense difference seriously?

annuilein14 days ago

with that helmet the minimum defense becomes 8 instead at the cost of scu also and note that the armour protects your minimum speed also you can't drop below like 3 speed with the whole set

Not a Slave Trader14 days ago (2 edits)

Only 3,00 speed...? Why we need this if anyone can catch up with us? It's like... 3-4 monsters and some slow people and of course undeads with very slow speed can't do that... but they just... eh... Why? Why we really need 3,00 speed don't drop buff? Well... it's probably useful if you have a few stacks of Sick... but am... you don't really want to fight or gather any food while you have only a speed 3,00 anyway.

1) Very slow to do any
2) Most weapons become usless (Or rather it's quite difficult to use them without speed)
3) Most of the tactics don't work correctly (If you're a thief/assasin it's not a big problem but just... eh... very slow)

Abomination Lona don't even need this 3,00 speed don't drop buff because Abom race has a tentacle whip that allows Abom to fly around the map even with 0,00 speed and Deep One Lona can't use it because she can't wear that type of armor... those who like stealth would not wear such armor because it's not useful and those who fight in close combat usually use a very fast type of clothing because you need to dodge attacks and strike quickly... the only option for those who play with a shield buuuut whether or not you need it if it slow your speed... i don't know.

Who's it even for then? Which class will use this very strange armor perk? Why we need this if that set weighs a lot when it's enough to just buy 2-3 red potions at the market or go to the mountains to get a root especially since you're gonna have to go to the mountains anyway because you need something to eat? It's kinda weird.

annuilein14 days ago

actually i kind of forget the exact minimum its either 3 or 3.5 but lets just say it also applies to when you are crawling

Not a Slave Trader14 days ago

I test it now... it's slower than hunter's set when you're sneaking but faster than you are crawling... so there's not much point.

And yes... 3.0 max speed cap buf.

annuilein14 days ago

if you have a bunch of leg and groin injuries it will prevent you from being slower than 3 thats the main advantage

Not a Slave Trader14 days ago

but it takes up a lot of inventory space and 3.00 speed not really good for fighting... so... this is no reason use a full set but only a Worn Cuirass which gives you extra 4 DEF stat in belt slot + and it's actually quite nice-looking. Maybe on the Doom difficulty it makes some sense.... but I don't know. I personally have never used this set in combat that often because I always have red potions in my pocket that it weighs less and heal 50 by the way it also heals head injuries which lowers magic damage and heals hand injuries which lowers physical damage which by the way this armor set can't do.

So... what do you do if you get a head or arm injury using that armor with 3,00 speed buff in fight?

Not a Slave Trader16 days ago

And you also have to consider the fact that while you're only taking 1 damage you're dealing 30/40 magic damage with lightning per hit.

30 DEF stat and 1,2,3,4 lightnings = 40+40+40+40 dmg = 120/160 magic damage per 1 sec
Now tell me, who's going to survive this? Even Dicc the Impaler (1400 HP and 15 SURV) can't stand more than 30 sec near to you because of lightning spam + blue potion.

jirno15 days ago

if this is a thing, than it must be fixed as fast as possible

Not a Slave Trader15 days ago

Technically it's still a 26 defense if you don't include the shield... but it's still powerful because you can cast only 2 lightning and hide behind a shield because each lightning hits 4 times with 40 damage (40 Dmg x2 lightning x4 hits = 320 magic dmg) and you stand behind the shield and only take 1 damage. Moreover - shields in the game are broken because if you raise a shield you will get x10 DEF stat which means if you have only 10 DEF stat of character it's 10x10 = 100 DEF.

I'm already personally tired of goblins running around with a wooden shield because they're pretty hard to penetrate sometimes even with a halberd at the start because they have too much DEF stat even without blocking and 100 HP. I mean - you can kill them of course especially in an open field but it's a lot of running.

Not a Slave Trader15 days ago (1 edit)

In general about the "shields are broken"... I don't mean the Lona character (because you can't just nakedly grab a shield and save yourself from all the damage even without blocking) I am talk about all monsters or humans with shield (But this shields problem is pretty broad... so there's no point in talking about it so much at now).

annuilein15 days ago

Lightning is checked against SUR not def

Not a Slave Trader15 days ago

I mean 30 DEF stat of character that you can stand right up close and spam lightnings.

I'm even not talking about the fact that while lightning strikes from above any enemy will have a delayed hit and you can dodge at the same time... so... this is why it's kinda OP.

Not a Slave Trader15 days ago

I even tells only about 30/40 magic damage as an example because players most often don't level up more than 55/60 LvL+ because there's not much else to do at now or they kinda tired of running through the woods gathering food (BTW - Everyone who uses cheats in Lona... I don't understand you because then you'll get out of the game more faster without any game experience).

You can get to the ork boss even at Lona's level 15 which is very fast to kill even if you have 0 DEF and just 10 mines because of all his attack the most dangerous only his jumps which the game sometimes counts as a hit even if you dodge in time 100% because of RPG Maker laggs.

RedTrainer14 days ago

hmm... seems fine for a lona whos wearing a heavy helmet plus the armored chestplate.
Not to mention the cursed doll set.

in RPG Fantasy logic, this seems like a Fine build :D

Not a Slave Trader14 days ago

Yeah... except the problem that LonaRPG is kind of dark fantasy game with violence and horror, not just a rainbow fantasy MMORPG. And yes you're wearing Helm and Armored Chestplate but there's nothing to protect your ass and belly and arms and legs, it's just literally exposed and she has the same DEF stat value as Human Guard Warrior (30 DEF) who's all in plate armor - LonaRPG logic.

In fact - to solve this problem, enchantments could be added to the game. So... the same Sex doll's set could be enchanted more than a normal armor because it's kind of related to lust and lust is actually one of the magic sources in LonaRPG (The Sea Witch showed it to us) and this is the reason why normal armor can't be enchanted so much because Fortune-teller don't really like this rough plated armor and especially Great Helms like Pig Head and will only enchant something if you help her. This will make the player interact with her a little more often than player does now. I mean... why not?

CaKeo1063 days ago

That is so OP! So this is a monster that Gray Rat could have become. Because he was not wearing the Great Helms or the curse doll set underneath, and he was not timid enough.

With that build, Lona can freely cause and win any bar fights without fearing Big mama or anyone kicking her out (except for that one inn that has Justice in there lol... or maybe she can survive long enough to collect everything and escape?)

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