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[#WeDontNeedIdeas] - this is the most immature thing i have ever seen

A topic by dumbassman created May 31, 2023 Views: 1,225 Replies: 32
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yall are legit trying to stop one of the most popular forms of government with a game jam?! if you want to take down capitalism (which you wont)  then you need to somehow persuade every capitalist on the fucking earth to stop being a capitalist. yall are just mad that people have more money than you and don't give it away for free. grow up you man babies.

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I'm pretty sure everyone knows that a game jam can't stop capitalism on it's own; change does not happen simultaneously, but once enough people get the ball rolling, it starts picking up speed. Imagine telling a suffering family who has to work for their entire life harvesting resources for big companies to "grow up you man babies." By going against people who want to make art showing the fucked up world we live in like this, you are effectively supporting a toxic hierarchy that favors luck and heartless progression more than empathy for others and making the world a better place.

Also try to cut back on the meaningless swearing and bad punctuation because it makes you look stupid, which would explain the username but still...

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i admire the class with which you  have wrecked this man

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There are plenty of examples of families that suffer due to the hierarchical system of capitalism. Primarily families in West Africa such as cacao bean farmers who live day by day supplying the main resource for chocolate to America and Europe and are underpaid every single time. And because you absolutely seem like the kind of person that doesn't care about anything that doesn't happen in the USA, what about the family owned farms here in America that cannot compete with big corporate farming systems and resort to staying in farmer's marts while the corporations sell their produce for cheap at places like Walmart? What about the many crypto investments people have made that turn to duds and leave many people in the dust? What about the big millionaire and billionaire CEOs of our most popular corporations who are known to have severe depression from the isolation that living in a capitalist society brings? Not a single one of these people deserve the shitty life they live, and yet you go ahead and say that people who suffer from capitalism don't exist. Fucking disgraceful.

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I have already provided the reasoning needed in my response to you, however what you've done is fail to put two and two together because you are either stupid or a fan of not listening. Probably both.

The idea that the hierarchy in capitalism is somehow voluntary is hilarious, also known as not true, also known as you are lying. This hierarchy is caused by a positive feedback loop or a "snowball effect" that makes rich people richer, and takes money out of people in poverty easier. This is done through how massive corporations are to the point where taxes cannot catch up with them, alongside the fact that smaller companies rely on these big corporations to keep their own business afloat means that rich people get a lot more money because capitalism encourages making people dependent on large entities to survive economically.

Freedom of trade allows corporate systems to overshadow smaller companies who cannot catch up with that market at a sustainable rate. This is why many family owned businesses suffer due to the fact that other larger companies take up their valuable space. There is absolutely freedom of trade in places like West Africa, and especially the USA. So you just ignored that fact at all because you don't even realize I made a point about America in the first place.

Scams predate capitalism, yes, but that doesn't rid the scams done through capitalism of connection to it. Crypto investments are inherently ties to neoliberal ideals of freedom of trade. Your argument is basically saying "don't blame the Casinos! Blame the gamblers!"

Capitalism causes isolation for many people because every aspect of it encourages people to be competitive and never trust each other. Celebrities and CEOs have experienced extreme depression due to how much money they have, they cannot trust anyone to be genuine about their intents because they think that everyone is after their money or fame. 

Either you can't use a single bit of that brain to put the puzzle pieces together or you are just avoiding my points. Regardless, all that I said here should have been extremely obvious through my response if you didn't just act like a dumbass for one second.

P.S, you have a lot of spelling errors and grammatical errors throughout your response and you couldn't even fix them with the two edits you made to your poorly thought out arguments. I think you just like pulling words out your ass, dusting off your hands, and saying "yup that sounds smart enough!"

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Capitalism is not a form of government as far as I'm aware but a form of economic system.

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What do you want? Look at his username.

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Ostensibly.  One of the criticisms is that in the USA, it has de-facto become the form of government.  Assuming one agrees with that criticism, "democracy" constitutes an alternative to capitalism.

I believe you are referring to corporatism.

Seems like you've seen this kind of conversation before.

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it's a mode of production where the labor power of society is organized socially—people work together in big corporations/factories/etc.—but the directives for production are set by individuals. So all the power belongs to just a handful of people with no direct accountability to everyone else. That's liberal "democracy." That's capitalism.

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I think the mistake here made me realise something about myself, I was like "I'm not sure this guy understands how capitalism is actually defined... actually neither do I" when I looked it up it was basically that all the money is owned by a few people and everyone else works for scraps. The American Dream was originally "anyone can work hard and become wealthy" is more at odds with capitalism than I would have thought. With capitalism not being that different from a monarchy, it actually feels that it's against everything the Americans stood for when they told the British to piss off.

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It's about a "Free Market" which is dimensioning quickly in America. I'm not sure that it's so much about Fuck Capitalism as it Fuck Those Who Exploit Capitalism. It's just like socialism, if it weren't for the people involved, things would work just fine. I feel as this game is about pushing the pendulum back towards center. Which always causes it to swing the other way, but when you decided that you're middle of aisle most of your time is pulling things back to center. 

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The goal of capitalism is to make a profit. It's also about competition since your competitors will cause you to make less profit. So if your competitors start using slave labour then you oughta use slave labour as well  if you want to stay competitive. Otherwise you will be failing at capitalism since you will make less profit. The free market allows private businesses to offer lower prices due to the slave labour without government intervention. Capitalism is a game and the goal of the game is to make a profit. The government is the referee and they won't do much intervening or regulating of the competition. With little regulation and the pressure to make a profit, what did you think would happen? Did Jeff Bezos exploit capitalism? Did he find some bug in capitalism that allowed him to speedrun to having a billion dollars? That ain't no bug. It's a feature. He did exactly what you're supposed to do as a capitalist: Make a profit. He won at capitalism. Jeff Bezos is capitalism's endgame.

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Free trade allowed for the trade of slaves. Lots of them too.

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Socialism also allows right to property. I used Google to look it up:  

"While socialism calls for collective or shared ownership of the means of production, it does not imply that there is no private ownership of personal property. Thus, corporations and factories would be shared among the members of society, but individuals and households would still own their own personal effects." Source

I don't think anybody wants to share a communal toothbrush.

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"Arbitrary" at best. Lmao yeah there's zero difference between owning a toothbrush and owning Amazon /s

That's why you've owned just as many Amazon's in your life as you have toothbrushes, right?

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Imagine thinking you're so important that every socialist has to stop and address all your points.

You don't have anything original to say doofus. If people aren't answering you it's not because you're clever, it's because they've already heard it ten other times.

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Just read Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism my man, it's not that hard

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>You have to persuade every capitalist on the fucking earth to stop being a capitalist

Lol no that's not how it works. You just have to take their property and their employees. Then they're no longer capitalists lmao. We don't have to ask their permission to take that from them. If they resist—well the people can decide their fate then ;)

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Lol idgaf who the "good guy" is.

If Jeff Bezos decides his property is worth more to him than his life then who are we to deprive him of that decision xD

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authoritarianism is when you build a successful movement

lol ye, I'm gonna take it down big boy

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Capitalism is a better system than state controlled communism. Yes there is crony capitalism which is what you are talking about but other than that you are as good as dead because capitalism isnt going anywhere. the game jam is a joke and is probably funded by BlackRock

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How do you prevent capitalism from becoming "crony capitalism."

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break up the mega corporations like amazon, verizon, google, facebook, twitter,etc. the Sherman Antitrust act of 1915 was made for this very purpose.

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I said prevent

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Lol yeah? Then how do you prevent government power from expanding again?

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Lmao bet. You have no idea how to make a real distinction between capitalism and "crony capitalism" because the latter is literally just capitalism given time. You have no idea how to prevent "crony capitalism" because the only way how is socialism.

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"A government of private interests is fundamentally the same as a government of public interests.

Every government is the same; feudalism, oligarchy, democracy all develop exactly identically even if they have different starting points.

I am very smart."

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If you put a gun to their head yeah they'll stop being pieces of shit.

Oh but I'm sorry, I almost forgot, you're only okay with ineffective methods like voting and sending letters.

Anything else is aUtHoRiTaRiAn