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I had voiced despair at how flooded with AI the assets section had become, and even stopped publishing on itch altogether. This is very good news, a good start, and I'll definitely come back to itch if negative filtering does a good job of filtering out the slop.

I dont mean to sound ungrateful here but why not ban AI entirely? No one wants it, and it's just a shitty grift that actively harms the indies that your platform specifically caters towards. Itch has always been a haven for devs and artists, why even allow assets that have had no significant human editing? Moderation seems to be stretched thin, and that also seems like a faster way to get the issue done with

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Like any tool it can be used or abused. I'm making an RPG and I wouldn't be able to do so without AI-generated art. As you say, there's slop and lazy content, too, but just saying that AI hurts indie devs is painting with way too broad a brush, imho.

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No interest in debating this

It certainly would be very forward thinking. Leafy went with a safer route here, but is up for juries around the world to decide whether the gross negligence of these mass-fed models is acceptable. I'm not sure what the best blanket ban looks like for this site, whether its a server side scan of every file or users trying to brigade down suspected targets.

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Because it's impossible to identify AI-generated content, especially when you get away from visual art. (False positives exist in art but not to the scale that they do in text.)

Any "ban this content" rule would result in unpopular devs being harassed and having complaints filed that they have AI-generated content - and then they're stuck trying to prove that they actually wrote their visual novel dialogue instead of developing it through ChatGPT.

There's no point in banning something you can't reliably identify; that just makes the ban a weapon that would be used against marginalized creators.

why even allow assets that have had no significant human editing?

There's a difference between "no significant human editing" and "contains some AI-generated features" - and right now, the tag won't differentiate between those.  A ban on "all AI-generated content" would include "I made 30 distinct character tokens and then used AI to create color-shifted versions of them." It would include banning randomly-generated maps in TTRPG supplements, where the map is AI-made but all the description is created by the writer.

...Would it include all images edited with Photoshop, since it has a lot of AI features now? Text edited with Google Drive's spellcheck?

I can see value in marking AI-generated assets (especially since those will be in the public domain, definitely something you want to know before adding them to another work), but banning means needing to define where the edges of "AI-generated" are - and, without a way to identify AI works, means any easy way for bullies to harass the people they don't like, by accusing them of something that can't be disproved.

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When people say "AI-Generated", in reality they usually mean "Generated using *generative* AI", which is different to other uses of AI, like spell checking or content labelling, for example. In the case of itch, they're talking about generative AI like Midjourney, ChatGPT, etc.

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There's been at least ten games on the popular page in the past few months that have used generative AI for voices and images. So saying no one wants it is straight lying, the average consumer really just doesn't care. 

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So sad... I see why this is happening but there is room for well crafted games that utilize AI (I'm a little biased... see my game).  My game would be almost impossible and cost prohibitive to do without AI generated content or text to voice.  

https://itch.io/post/11464895

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So happy theft got democratized enough to where in addition to corpos spamming my replies with slop, it can be done by you as well. Truly an institution for thieves everywhere.

okay, sure :)

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You can also write something like “Earth is flat” which would lead to even bigger amount of “spamming” as you say :)

This is a discussion and people are discussing. Just writing rude stuff pretending everyone who disagrees is a fool is not how discussions usually work. But if you are truly happy about notifications this is also fine. Cheers, then!