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Did you actually go through your evidence, or do you just pick up what someone said?

The twitter post was insensitive, but he didn’t joke about a person’s death, nor did he make it a joke. While I do not know about Dragoneer’s way of founding FA, without the community founding it, FA would be gone by now. (Though I must admit that I couldn’t see the 366 comments, as I never had an account on the so-called “social media” site named X formerly Twitter and never will I have one.)

And the entire evidence about him being a pedophile (by law) is based on a Twitter-account, that (I quote) “is a parody account dedicated to hating Kabier.” Though by now it is in the past, as the account no longer exists, it was meant to attack JasonAfex’s wife.

And yes, JasonAfex got into the relationship with Kabier – who is 5 years younger than him – when she was 16, neither of them denies that. Admittedly it feels strange despite being legal where they lived back then and where they live now, but Kabier (probably in her early 30s by now) actively said that JasonAfex didn’t act wrong towards her.

But hey, why not repeat claims that were already shown to be simple hate 6 years ago and ignore the person (Kabier) who should know best?

Squat2 days ago(-2)

A pedophile is still a pedophile, for all we know he couldve groomed her.

AbiOrionsson2 days ago (2 edits) (+1)(-1)

No he didn't. If you had read your own evidence you’d know that Kabier explicitly wrote what is written here in this screenshot.

[Edit:] Why is the screenshot this small while shown in the comment but good readable when opened in another tab?

Squat2 days ago (1 edit) (-2)

bro i posted the journal for a reason so people can (edit: try to) disprove me. i said "for all we know" we dont know if he did or not. groom victims will usually avoid saying anything. How about we all collectively agree that dating a minor as a 20+ year old man is creepy. No age of consent will change that. But no just cause he made your favorite sex game he is on this high pedestal. This man is beyond disgusting.

AbiOrionsson2 days ago (2 edits) (-1)

A. He did not made my "favorite sex game" and I do not put him on a high pedestal.

B. I am NOT your bro, nor anyone else’s. (The same goes for every other wording suggesting familiarity)

C. They’ve been harassed for something that troll-account on X formerly Twitter said, ignoring what Kabier has to say about her own relationship. And you just do it again.

If JasonAfex had been 25+ yes, I would have said the same as you. But he was 21, barely a full adult himself. (no, I do not see 18 as adulthood, but 21 since not all are fully developed before 21.) Someone dating a 16-year-old does feel strange to me (as I already stated) but JasonAfex married Kabier 6 years ago and (as far as I can say) still is married to her. That is not a pedophile “loving” children but a guy who found love.

[Edit:] The reason I even reacted to your comment is that seeing a denouncing comment like yours, where evidence must first be requested, already angers me (and without proof that was denunciation). But then your evidence actually speaks against your point, but you still choose that to make your stand?

Heavens above and hells bellow, I am no native speaker, but I still understand what is written in that long discussion on FA, where only gunstinger tried to die on that hill of JasonAfex being a Pedo (well, besides JasonAfex and Kabier only four held against her. But if it were more than simple hate, at least someone would have helped her).

Spyro1321 day ago(-1)

can we just report this squat guy and stop talking about this, he is not listening and to be honest I stick to my word, THIS CONVERSATION SHOULDNT BE HERE. And it’s pissing me off

Squat1 day ago

oh god forbid i alert people that they might be supporting a pedophile...

Stop sucking Jasons dick he isnt gonna sucks yours.

Spyro1321 day ago

Hahah yeah look i just liked the first game okay😂 i wouldn’t call that sucking his dick, and I’m keen for the second one but shit i didn’t realise that people that are so up them selves about one thing haha take this conversation elsewhere because as I said last time this is not the place for it, but I’m tired of hearing this bullshit cause that’s what this is, but you think what you want to think it’s only making you a worse person 😂

Ps imma ignore any new comments about this because you just don’t want to let it go😂

AbiOrionsson1 day ago (1 edit)

You're right that this discussion shouldn't happen here - or anywhere else, as far as I'm concerned - but ignoring people accusing others based on no or insufficient evidence is also not a viable option.

Squat1 day ago

insufficient..? he literally said himself he dated a minor .-.

AbiOrionsson1 day ago (1 edit)

He also talked about their first interaction on FA and how their relationship started as he helped her (a fan at that time) overcoming the end of a bad relationship and her damaged impression of the furry community (second comment in the journal you linked).

Yes, he admitted dating a Minor, but he also made clear that this did not begin with dating. He didn’t give an exact timeline allowing us to know the tame it took, but this began on FA. A site with very adult contends that is not really suited for minors and no really save method to check the actual age of its useres.

At what time he learned of her age (and how old she was at that moment) is completely up to speculation, but the indicators that she was 15 when it started are from the troll-account on X formerly Twitter dedicated to hating Kabier, a source absolutely not trustworthy. But with the situation given there is a fair chance that he initially assumed her to be an adult.

But is it strange that they became friends and then fall in love?

And again, ONE CASE DOES NOT PROVE A GENERAL POINT. This happening one time makes him not a pedophile, it would if it happened multiple times or started as a sexual thing, but not the way it did happen. (Though we have to take JasonAfex word here, as proof is missing, but at least Kabier did not said it to be false)

Squat1 day ago

Spitballing real quick, If he truly didnt know kabs age at the time he seems to be pretty proud of himself admitting that he dated a minor.

But why do people defend him, hes some random dude online who is creepy. I am here to alert others of this

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Squat1 day ago

Or or... we dont defend PEDOPHILES!!!!! god maybe this fandom is full of fucking pedos 🤦🤦🤦

been here since 2000s and i still fucking hate it .-.

AbiOrionsson1 day ago

For the love of whatever divine being you may believe in.

JasonAfex got together with one… ONE (singular) person that was 16 somewhat around 15 years ago and he married with that person for 6 years ago. He doesn’t go around looking for minors.

HE DOES NOT LOVE MINORS

JASONAFEX LOVES KABIER

So maybe do not call him a Pedophile with evidence that goes against your point.

And if you hate this fandom for over 20 years, maybe rethink your live and go somewhere else, as actively seeking out something you hate means stress and thus is not healthy.

Squat1 day ago

Bro, why are you dick riding jason so hard? He DOES love minors if he DIDNT he wouldnt have DATED a minor and then got MARRIED to them. But since this is some guy who made your favorite sex game awhile back doesnt mean you should defend him.

And the evidence does not go against, actually it supports me, cause he DID date a minor. And we cant be FOR SURE that he only loves kabier.

AbiOrionsson1 day ago(-1)

Again, I’m NOT your bro, nor anyone else’s.
Also, again he didn’t make my favorite sex game. (From my point of view, the best he made was enjoyable but only above average)

Then I never said he ONLY loves Kabier, I said that he loves Kabier. The “only” changes the meaning drastically, by making it something exclusive.
And falling in love with one person (while she was a minor but reached age of consent) does not prove a general standpoint.
+ He married her years later when she was in her mid-20s, clearly beyond the age of a minor. Absolutely something a pedophile would do.

And by your logic, I can’t hate humanity because I have friends, but surprise: There are few I detest more than myself and I hate our species. Yet I do my best to not generalize by single events, to look at the entire picture and actually argue based on what the others (including the ones we talk about) said before.

AbiOrionsson1 day ago

And as I'm no native speaker (as mentioned before) I must ask, what a sexuall act has to do with taking the side of the one that is attact?

Squat1 day ago

Why do you care if i call you bro... jesus Christ bro

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