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Yes and no. Also sorry, i thought it would be a pretty fitting place to include Lamia^^"

It does restrict your own movements but makes the selected target completely unable to act. So this skill can work alone but also has a wider range of usefulness in parties.

That's odd, will look at it.

Yes there are two transformation currently for which i have found no good/useful ability to give, lamia is one of them. Any ideas are welcome!

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It does restrict your own movements but makes the selected target completely unable to act. So this skill can work alone but also has a wider range of usefulness in parties.

I find being blocked out of everything except Normal Attack (which is underwhelming) and Ultimates far too limiting to be of use in a single party. The other mobs can still act freely. Even in a party, this might be only worth against a boss. The primary issue is, that killing enemies is the best approach to end battles and losing Nana is more punishing than benefiting the party. Maybe still allow normal skills? Or limit target only to the one you are constricting instead?

BTW, would Restriction help against Shira's test? That would make the fight quite easy there.

Yes there are two transformation currently for which i have found no good/useful ability to give, lamia is one of them. Any ideas are welcome!

Some kind of tremorsense? Like showing up the way to secrets? Might be tough to implement. Or maybe instead seeing dark, you can see everything in monochrome and brighter instead automatically.

I just noticed, Lamia has "Tail Strike", too. "Tail Attack" for Melia?

Lamia's Plaything seems underpowered.

Lamias inherited skills had no costs associated.

As an observation, I barely play as human, but when I do, I basically now only buy support skills (or leeching attacks) from the inherited forms, since I have lots of attack skills anyway and I can't use those I have before the fight ends. Maybe longer boss fights, but most are forced into a certain form, so the point is moot.

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Yes I absolutely can see that point. Wanted to try something new to make it feel unique but still could need more fine tuning. "Or limit target only to the one you are constricting instead?" that is something i wanted to do but I found no way to realize it in the engine yet but I hope to managed to implement something like this. All other suggestions you might come up as well over time, feel free to share them!

Yes should be, at least partly, I do think only a very few selected bosses have a resistance against it.

Yeah that is close to impossible to program I think, unfortunately...
"Or maybe instead seeing dark, you can see everything in monochrome and brighter instead automatically." I guess it would be possible but how useful it is would be anotehr question. I think it could get annoying rather quiekly to see not in colors.

Maybe "Tail Whip" instead?

Will look at it and buff it. As well as look at the inherited skills. Thanks!

Yes there are certainly more than any player would ever need. It's more a thing of which forms a player unlcoks earlier and so probaly tends more to buy them. The intention is not that the player would have all skills by the end, I don't think taht is even possible in teh first run, because of limited resources.
As you said, that is more of a thing that differs per playstyle so it is hard to say.

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"Or maybe instead seeing dark, you can see everything in monochrome and brighter instead automatically." I guess it would be possible but how useful it is would be anotehr question. I think it could get annoying rather quiekly to see not in colors.

That would only affect the area which is normally darkened. So basically the area marked with 1 works as it does right now, the area marked with 2 would be monochrome bright. And for those not liking the monochrome, they can use "Enhanced Vision" field skill.

Maybe "Tail Whip" instead?

Salamander has already Tail Whip. Strike, Attack, Whip, Hit... Though Whip fits a pure AoE best.

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I mean I guess that would be a thing but I don't think it's possible to do in engine. You only can only change all screen colors or none. It just looks like the place around the character is brighter (Maybe seems like it has more color) but in reality I am just using a  mask for that effect. I also am still not sure if that would be very useful. I will keep it in mind at least if it is possible to do!

Oh i see, I am truely bad with names xD
Then maybe whip is a bad idea.

For some reason "Gain" is not dispalyed but it is there. Will look into it.

Also gave Restricted a buff first of all. "Strongly boost casters defense and hostility when under "Restricted""
This should give it some more utility in team fights with more enemies. It's not much but a start on improving the form.

I will certainly look into making more adjustments.
Thanksa  lot for the honest feedback, it helps a lot improving on it^^

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Oh i see, I am truely bad with names xD Then maybe whip is a bad idea.

I suggest for Melia either Attack, Hit, Slap and leave the forms alone. Edit: Snake enemy has also Tail Slap. BTW, you could create an excel file with skill names for easier discovery of duplicates.

The endless dungeon has no party switch crystal. I would also prefer some Fast Travel gates for the dungeon and the end game content. It would be also nice to see a floor number in the endless dungeons.

Why does Medusa's Gaze actually end the turn? Other debuffs don't do that.

Elven Recovery Circle shouldn't be outpaced by other attack skills.

Who does she refer to?

Please add some fly arrows here:

Also meant to be unsolvable unless field skill? Is the field skill in already?


Not sure where I found the Ancient Desert Robe (Ifrit's Fire Cape has only 100 Heat resistance less, as alternative), but it pushed the damage down from 366 to 1 (and with the Fuwa Family Plush I've got a nice HP boost as well):

Now the volcano is nothing to me! Ok, turning back into a human resp. into a phoenix did kill me before I could save. :( In fact, on the second try, I still died despite turning back into Salamander and restoring my equipment. It seems that there is no update of the damage being done in that case. Even at my third try with using varia field did not help.

In regards to the Phoenix form: What use are the Phoenix Feathers in battle?

Noticed the 5 round wait for resurrections. That's just too long. Either you had bad luck, which means that the rest of the party can still win without you, or you have to revive ASAP to win. Also, if you can't heal (or what does "can't recover life" else mean?), you basically force the player into this state. Which seems then ardous to get around. But because I die after the phoenixification, I can't test this myself.

Also finally beat Shira. Exchanged my gear to defense/improved healing, switched to lamia to suppress Shira's attacks, otherwise I've guarded. I did notice that Transformation still had a large CD of 12? Pretty sure I bought one CD reduction at the dojo and my skill level was 8, which leaves me with a CD of 12 normally, so I feel cheated. Also, after the quest, my companions are not restored to my party.

How do I find the Casino Quest? Where can I repair the smartphone? In the research lab? Still don't know, where the last two fairy vine seeds are. I think one is in the casino, but no clue where to find the other. Found one in the fairy forest, though.

I noticed this:

But I killed that demon. Quest was not properly updated then:

Also, I can't find the Bee demon enemy. I've screenshotted my various quests, which demons am I missing?

From the looks at the hint shop, I'm missing a normal TF in the volcano, the Phoenix TF in the volcano and the secret TF #2.

Ok, played a bit, found out that the other TF is the Dragon TF. I suppose you never tested getting Phoenix TF without Dragon TF.

Also, in the dialog there, you spell "exit" as "exist".

The power scale sounds interesting, but if you are slow to gain power (1 per round, plus skill boosts), it will not activate outside some sloggy boss fights. At the current level, I've eliminated also a boss with my group in round 1. So getting 5 power with a group is unlikely, not to mention 10 or more. In fact, just alone with Xia and level 10 I killed a group of robots with getting 4 power in a single round.

In that regard, I still have never seen cat  Fortune level 2 myself, because you either drink potions or don't rebuilt the Ultimate Gauge.

Will respond to teh oterh things soon but to answer all your questions:

-Why does Medusa's Gaze actually end the turn?
Because "Defense Break" to all foes is very powerful with good setup. But maybe skill could inflict a feew aditional debuffs to amke up for it.

Who does she refer to?
-To Nana and the Player. Nah just kidding xD It actually is a carry over, will correct that mistake!

-Please add some fly arrows here
Why? is there something on teh other side, would need to look it up, don't know right out of my head right now.

-Also meant to be unsolvable unless field skill? Is the field skill in already?
You probaly know already since you got the form, but yes that ability is in the game.

-Ifrit's Fire Cape
That is a display error in menu it actually does way more as you noticed, will correct that!

-What use are the Phoenix Feathers in battle?
They are needed for some of the forms skills.

-Pretty sure I bought one CD reduction at the dojo and my skill level was 8, which leaves me with a CD of 12 normally, so I feel cheated.
Must be a bug, will look into it. Cooldown still longer after the fight as it should be?

-How do I find the Casino Quest?
You mean the quest giver? She is in a house in the northern part of town.

-Where can I repair the smartphone?
Yes, in research lab after completing the story there. There will be a new point seeable point that can be interacted with

-Still don't know, where the last two fairy vine seeds are
Yes three buyable: Supermarket, Casino and Flower Shop in Western Plains.
Two findable in fairy buds: Frozen Tundra and Fairy Forest

-I noticed this:
That is the spot for fox demon not dog.

-Also, I can't find the Bee demon enemy.
One of the hardest one to find in the game probaly. In the flower shop, can only be reached at night with mouse.

-Phoenix TF in the volcano and the secret TF #2
Sounds about right!

-I suppose you never tested getting Phoenix TF without Dragon TF.
Phoenix (0.6) was in the game before dragon (0.8) so I was forced to test it without. But I didn't had taht bug. Will look into it!

If I missed anything, feel free to as again!

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-Please add some fly arrows here
Why? is there something on teh other side, would need to look it up, don't know right out of my head right now.

Convenience. The left side is the way to the lamia ruins. If you walk down the right side, you have to back up the entire way and to navigate a small maze.

-Pretty sure I bought one CD reduction at the dojo and my skill level was 8, which leaves me with a CD of 12 normally, so I feel cheated.
Must be a bug, will look into it. Cooldown still longer after the fight as it should be?

The issue is that in the fight the CD was NOT reduced.

-How do I find the Casino Quest?
You mean the quest giver? She is in a house in the northern part of town.

The fuwa dolls? I thought there would be more to it.

-I noticed this:
That is the spot for fox demon not dog.

Where is then the dog demon? Oh, found it, I had it incorrectly marked in notes and misremembered where the location points to.


This looks like a debuff icon, not buff icon:

How does Xia gain Blazing?

Further dialog: "turn abck" instead of "turn back".

"I never ask" instead of "I never asked".


Can't get to these chests.


When challenging demons, the default selection should be "No" to avoid accidentally suiciding yourselves.

The Dragon War WU of 5 makes this basically useless in normal fights. Only draggy boss fights would be able to access this skill. Then it is a matter of playstyle if the sacrifice of defense is worth the increase of offense.

Also in regards to Power stacks, I noticed now Third Tail grants 5 of them, which is nice, but requires then at least 2 rounds of fighting to have an effect. The dragon demon fight did drag, in particular, as it healed up itself from sure defeat to full again. I also died the first round because of likely the Dragon War effect, being alone in the party, which can't be deactivated afterwards. I got 23 stacks of power in that fight, which matches my expectations.

Defeated the Dragon demon, but got Phoenix trait?

No, I fought in Dragon form the Phoenix demon, as apparently both are in the same place. Had two fights consecutively with no breaks. But started with 23 power stacks and ended with 33. That's without artificially dragging out anything.

Xia says she wants to help, but doesn't join the party? Ah, I see, she doesn't automatically join, unlike the other party members.

No way to examine the status of enemies in combat?

Can this riddle be actually solved? I tried all for combinations and the closest I got was the green tile in the upper left.

In regards to above dialog, I would prefer to be able to override the denial. I had to remove every team member and readd after getting Phoenix TF. Also, Xia should comment on this.

I'm quite disturbed that I missed so much here.


Alternative scan result:

Running around I did find the fairy seed and this:

I suspect my stuff is inside there, but where is the key?

Nightvision goggles are indeed in the volcano.
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The cooldown should be fixed now.

There is a second quest that only appears in guild after finishing the casino Quest but besides that they have no purpose. One plan i had for them was: That you could place them in your home in town but I never came around yet to program that in. So maybe in the future they gain more uses.

Xia gains blazing by taking dmg from enemies. She can gain 1 blazing each turn that way.

Chest got alrady reported, willl be fixed in next version!

Reduced the warm up now to 2 for a test.

Yeah that is a bug that was areported as well, fixed it already. That wasn't intentional! It was happening because dragon and phonix shared the same Area ID.

Actually version 0.8 added a item named the Hero's Charm, whoever equips it can analyse enemies. It is in a new cave in the forest of beginnings.

No the puzzle can't be solved, I made a mistake, got already fixed and will be doable in next patch.

The locked place you found is part of a hidden secret quest, none of the collectibles are in there.

If I forgot to respond to anything feel free to tell me! And thanks for all the reports^^

-The endless dungeon has no party switch crystal.
Added one now.

-Elven Recovery Circle shouldn't be outpaced by other attack skills.
Buffed it a little bit.

-Ok, turning back into a human resp. into a phoenix did kill me before I could save.
So fixed it now, should not happen anymore! Sorry for the inconvinience!

-Noticed the 5 round wait for resurrections.
Making it any shorter would make the player pretty much invicible.

-I bought one CD reduction at the dojo and my skill level was 8, which leaves me with a CD of 12 normally, so I feel cheated.
Cooldown for that fight should now be fixed.

-Also, in the dialog there, you spell "exit" as "exist".
Could not find it. Do you remeber in which part that sentence was?

-The power scale sounds interesting,
Yeah those mechanic as well as cat fortunte are a thing that is more tailored to the higer difficulties wher monsters have more hp, new skills and fights take longer. On Normal and easy those mechanics don't find much use.

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Also, in the dialog there, you spell "exit" as "exist".
Could not find it. Do you remeber in which part that sentence was?

IIRC, I was talking to Xia during the escape from the lab. Likely at the end when we were back in the volcano.

Which reminds me, why was Xia not affected by the heat? And why doesn't she have ear feathers like Nana?

Do you plan to redraw Shira and Serafina and Nana's Fox and Kitsune forms to be more consistent?

-Noticed the 5 round wait for resurrections.
Making it any shorter would make the player pretty much invicible.

Maybe it is my playthrough, but I gain hp through the hp regen still, so losing hp and going to die isn't happening as well. I also found the plant shield, which states that it prevents "can't heal" debuffs. Unfortunately it doesn't, but I think it should allow for normal healing. At least 50% of normal with that buff.

In any case, getting the phoenix TF is late end game. I could see a case being made if you could access this as early as bunny tf, but at this point the balance is certainly pushed towards survival, even if you are missing some pieces of your usual arsenal.

From the other post:

Actually version 0.8 added a item named the Hero's Charm, whoever equips it can analyse enemies. It is in a new cave in the forest of beginnings.

Tried it, like that it doesn't eat up a turn. But I actually referred to buffs and debuffs during the combat, like you can check for your team.

Chest got alrady reported, willl be fixed in next version!

I posted two pics there with the same problem. Did you address both?

The locked place you found is part of a hidden secret quest, none of the collectibles are in there.

Then I don't know where else I can find the missing stuff. I've been running around in the overworld (any area that is not covered with a ceiling) at night as wolf to find that mysterious creature which supposedly appeared as well the unique enemies. Basically only dungeons are still left untouched. and I still have not found anything of relevance.

And thanks for all the reports^^

You're welcome!


In the forest home, is there some code preventing to rest repeatedly to grow your garden?

Wolf's Full Moon Swift Swipe may have used 200 ultimate gauge? I only used one ultimate and went from over 200 to under 100.

Also Xia's Past Times interferes with her taking damage. In fact, the whole concept is counterintuitive. The higher level she is, the less opportunity she has to take damage, which includes skills that make it even less likely in general - both herself and from other party members. If she is meant to be the tank, then being attacked should be enough for blazing. Remake possibly Past Times into a tank skill - guaranteed attack from enemies. Or add such a skill regardless. It definitely would not make me investing into her evasion skill counterproductive anymore.

I got already dozen of those:

I still can't tell where the trail leads here. I can't find the third one no matter I look:

Apparently, you can still redo your "dragon" TF:

Jumping back from Angel Gates leads to the mix of day and night:

Other scene transitions restore it. Going to Heavenly Plains screws with code heavily. I ended even up with no mask at the tnry place when returning from exploring the rest of the islands.

Here another "Nana is Jesus".

No Bee attack skills use honey stack?

Sometimes the engine breaks down and misplaces the drawing of one of the double buffers:

 

It self-stabilizes when saving the game and taking a screenshot apparently.

Where is the last fairy seed? Can't plant other three due to bug/implementation status:


Ok, I did find the the last one in the casino. For what amounts 2.500.000 coins. A sum I've never managed to accumulate so far. And for the fairy seed it is 4.000.000 coins. It looks less, but tokens cost 100 coins each, which is a lot already. If you truly want to have it accessible the "ignore slot machine" way, you need to drop the price by at least 10 somehow. And compare the stuff you can already buy, if the price is around that range. No one buys Ultramine Orb Elixir for 4.000.000 coins, if the vendor does for 82.000 coins.

The casino guy shouldn't bother Nana again with the while spiel, once you pay for the VIP pass. And automatically recognize Nana so it is no longer needed to swipe the card.

I'm doing the casino slots in cat form and while I see regularly 5x black fuwas, I basically saw even a triple of the other colors which pay more. Just twice where I got 500 or 1000 tokens. Do only 3-5 in a row count even and not merely 2 black - 1 other - 2 black for 4 times? Or must this count from beginning? I had 3 blacks in the places and didn't win anything. The RNG seems not smile on me here. It is unfortunate that the game detects, if it out of focus, so I can't just keep in the background running and that way gain the tokens. The game also crashed once.

Running this longer, this isn't actually guaranteed to rise somewhat quickly, hovering around 3000 tokens for quite a while. Cat form is here underrated.

 I also can't tell, if I have already all accessories for each form. Could you make quests for that?


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To differentiate design a little bit, like Melia and Mermaid nana also don't have the exact same design despite being the same species.

Shira and Serina are already redrawn, I think they look perfect. As for Nana, some older forms maybe but only after 1.0.

Looked up the plant shield and it does protect from the debuff but that isn't related to phoenix form inability to heal since that is not a debuff.

Yes that is intentional, it is meant as a end game tf but I let the possibility open to get it early but that comes with way moe risk and preparation.

No unfortunately there is no way to check on them more closly. If you know the status icons you see and will know but that is it.

Yes, that was a tileset error, fixed it do it now works everywhere correctly where that tileset is used.

Looked it up and found all 8 mystical flames outside but I only found 4 out of the 5 mysteria coins so that counter may be up 1 too high.

Sleeping does not affect the growth of plants at all, just looked it up and fixed it now. I mean you certainly could enter and leave the area constantly to pass time until they are grown. It's possible but dosen't sounds like the most fun thing to do but I won't stop anyone from doing it.

Wolf's Full Moon Swift Swipe is a normal attack skil so it dosen't use any ultimate at all. But I think there was such a problem as you mentioned with one of the wolf's ultimates, I think I fixed it already.

Changed it so the skill is only a one target.

That already got fixed, will be in next patch as well.

The end of the trail is in the top left, near the secret woods entrance.

Yes because it is needed for two other events.

So added a check, it should no display the current time right.

Don't think so, only some support skills cost honey.

-Sometimes the engine breaks down and misplaces the drawing of one of the double buffers:
Sorry I can't tell from the screenshot what was going wrong. It dosen't crash the game at least?

I reduced the prices a little bit. And a lot for the Ultramarine Orb Elixir.

The luck is also affected by which of the slot machine you use, each one has other odds. And your fortune also affects the outcome. There is a npc in a quest who gives a hint on which machines have the best odds. And I think they all need to be next to each other in the row and not just in the same row. And yes the crash is known, I think there is also a sign that warns about it, it still getting looked at.

You are missing:
-Blueberry Seeds (Sewers)
-Carrot Seeds (Rabbit Burrow)
-Banana Seeds (Casino)
Also they all work, only Lemon seed isn't working.

I don't plan to add a quest for it but i certainly could make a way to look up which ones you have and are missing!

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Shira and Serina are already redrawn, I think they look perfect. As for Nana, some older forms maybe but only after 1.0.

My issue is that Nana looks more foxish with her face even in kitsune form, while Shira and Serina look basically human with just animal ears and tail. Yet Serina believes her to be kitsune. Not to mention Nana says that all which changed was her fur color when she is clearly even more fox-like as fox in the later images.

BTW, in Kitsune form, the menu shows still the human Nana.

Looked up the plant shield and it does protect from the debuff but that isn't related to phoenix form inability to heal since that is not a debuff.

Equipped Xia with the Plant Shield to protect her from Fantastic Rebirth debuff, but Rise and Shine still didn't work on her.

Looked it up and found all 8 mystical flames outside but I only found 4 out of the 5 mysteria coins so that counter may be up 1 too high.

So I found one hiding behind a fence. Some rim areas seem entirely inaccessible. Otherwise I can still not find the rest.

I ran into a scent trail, which I can't find the next one. Looked at the south.


Yes that is intentional, it is meant as a end game tf but I let the possibility open to get it early but that comes with way moe risk and preparation.

I frankly don't see how you can access that TF early. First off you need 100 coins, which you don't find lying around in a single pile. You also need to defeat the Alraune, which also requires acquiring the Wolf form first. Which is quite a hard battle to be won. Then you need heat protection. At least I didn't find enough stuff without acquiring the Lamia transformation. Can't remember if there were other prereqs than the four key pieces, which are spread over the whole world. Possibly you need the Butterfly TF to access that. That on top me having the Salamander TF with all the heat resistance being bought for that form. So at best a middle game access, if you concentrate on just getting there.

The end of the trail is in the top left, near the secret woods entrance.

Then this should not point straight north, but north-west. Or have another trail in-between. Which I possibly missed the entire time.

Yes because it is needed for two other events.

I thought Lamia and Dragon would work. No reaction at all. But Salamander gives you the bad ending now.

-Sometimes the engine breaks down and misplaces the drawing of one of the double buffers: Sorry I can't tell from the screenshot what was going wrong. It dosen't crash the game at least?

It still draws one buffer at the right place, the other at wrong place, So it basically leads to a constant flickering and kind of overlaying the pictures.

The luck is also affected by which of the slot machine you use, each one has other odds. And your fortune also affects the outcome. There is a npc in a quest who gives a hint on which machines have the best odds. And I think they all need to be next to each other in the row and not just in the same row. And yes the crash is known, I think there is also a sign that warns about it, it still getting looked at.

I remember talking to the NPC, and I got told that the middle machine of three together is the worst one. So I thought I can take any machine that is on the side. But even I'd remember the NPC, I can't repeat the talk. No clue what then the best machine is.


Ignition Feathers seems kinda weak compared to the other skills. Also killed myself with the Self Destruction, but despite having the dojo improvement Rise from the Ashes, I only revived with 50% hp instead 100% (maybe because my fight ended there?). Hmm, on a second round, the restored hp might be 40% hp. Also the Max HP down is gone. Everlasting Phoenix's Tail seems kinda pointless with the dojo buy.



I wonder how the first Phoenix came to be. Apparently, as Xia is a real phoenix, Nana's TF isn't fake, or just half-phoenix. So Xia likely transformed herself in the past as well. It kinda indicates that Phoenixes don't reproduce normally or they would be rare. So there doesn't seem to be an actual bird around from which the feathers came from.

BTW, having just wings and not hands is inconvenient, but can't the Owls and Phoenixes use their feet?