You're right about delivering eggs. That will be reworked. The eggs getting stuck are an artifact of the colliders I used, and the multiplier racking up should only need some smoothing on the flip detection.
I really want to get working on multiplayer, but unfortunately I have to deal with marketing and all that nonsense for now.
Has potential. Moving the pan was too clunky for me and it was really uncomfortable for my wrists to cover longer distances to catch eggs in time. As others have mentioned the camera should be angled down more so depth perception is easier. Also it's kinda strange having to press 1 to deliver an egg. Why not just just use left / right click since we're already using the mouse to control the pan?
The pan movement needs some tweaking, especially when you have to go across the whole stove. Angling the camera made an immediate improvement to the perception, but I'm still going to add a target or similar for where the egg will land.
Delivering eggs will get a rework. Mouse clicks are an interesting idea, but I'm also leaning towards E for egg. Maybe both.
There weren't any instructions so it took a while to discover that pressing '1' delivers an egg. Managed to deliver like 5 eggs after a few rounds of practice, just wish the eggs didn't keep phasing through the pan and wondering if there's a way to help players get a better sense of depth in the game.
This is a fun idea, but deserves to be perfected. Position of the eggs depth-wise can be complicated, maybe moving the camera higher and looking down would make this easier. Egg / pan physics are also approximate with eggs goind through the pan (the rim especially) or racking up a multiplier for no reason.
Also it wasn't obvious on the first try that you had to press keys to deliver the eggs.
Positioning the eggs is definitely hard. I tried moving the camera slightly up and that made a huge difference. It looks nearly the same but it's significantly easier to catch eggs.
-UI in the top left gets cut off, I am using 16:10 resolution.
-If an egg(intact) is mid-fall and you quit, it will crack open while on the main menu, and when you select Play it will count against(or for) your score. Or it may give no score at all.
-Eggs will easily clip though the pan.
-I had a little trouble eyeballing where the egg would fall, so I ended up mostly staring at the shadows, which felt less in the spirit.
-I was confused why I was getting no score, but it turns out I need to press the related number key, which is unintuitive.
Good catch on those first two bugs, I didn't notice them. Eggs clipping, catching a falling egg, and scoring eggs are all usability issues that will absolutely be fixed once I get back to developing.
I'm not sure what else to comment but the game itself is a nice diversion. The eggs keep clipping into the pan and my score doesn't go up even when I mastered the egg flipping technique. The combo counter pops up, but the score doesn't change.
If I were to make an arcade game with this concept then I would probably drop most of the horizontal movement and focus on juggling ingredients instead. I mean who fries eggs on a single pan over a 6 burner stove? Unreasonable.
Eggs have to be delivered in order to score, which can be done by pressing the number above it, but this is a major usability mistake on my part.
I used to not have pan movement (just rotation), but I was able to throw the eggs so I wanted to be able to catch them. Moving to catch eggs also challenges the player to not drop eggs. This entire game is about being unreasonable.
I've taken your advice and adjusted the camera upwards. A relatively small change made a world of difference, but I'm also going to add an indicator for where the egg will land.
I noticed you have a 144hz monitor. Did you happen to notice whether it's running at 60hz or 144hz? Despite the dropdown, I haven't actually implemented refresh rate switching, and I might just auto-set it to the highest instead of offering a choice.
I have some trouble with depth perception, so catching dropping eggs proved to be pretty difficult for me. I tried watching the shadows, but since the pan covers the egg shadows if they're above it, sometimes an egg would spawn and I would think it was positioned over the pan, only for the shadow to appear in an area I wasn't covering a bit later as it got closer to the surface. I suck, in other words. The eggs clip through the pan super easily, as well. It's a neat concept and I could see it being a lot of fun with how hectic it gets, but I was thoroughly filtered.
It's not your depth perception, it's legitimately tough to tell where the egg will land. The shadow makes it worse because the light comes in at an angle. Clipping eggs will be fixed for sure, this game is a bit tough as is with the idiosyncrasies.
eggs easily clip with the pan. i also don't really understand how to deliver them. the pan is also indeed way too slow and clunky, so often when i lose an eggs it feels "unfair"
Thanks for playing! The eggs clipping is a known issue, and you're definitely not the only one who couldn't deliver eggs. Movement will be adjusted in the future.
It's eggcellent ha-ha-ha... Eggs dropped on the stove plates should start burning and smoking, fucking you up even more. Eggs will often get stuck inside the pan somehow, you can also bug them out and get a massive multiplier: https://files.catbox.moe/rmcp1r.webm
Hard to gauge the distance to where the eggs actually are, without looking at the shadows. Not sure how to fix that, uhh make a VR version..?
How to actually deliver the eggs was very obtuse. At first I assumed the numbers where the order they got cooked in.
Thanks for playing! Good news is burnt eggs are on the roadmap. As a gameplay feature they'll burn if you leave them in the pan too long, so from there it will be easy to burn them if they're on the stove. I think I'll add a smoke effect to burning eggs so it'll be a permanent punishment to drop an egg. With that said, I'm going to add an indicator for where the egg will land so they will be easier to catch.
The massive multiplier just needs a bit of smoothing to ensure the egg is properly and fully flipped.
VR probably won't happen because I don't own a headset, but motion controls might be added.
Delivering the eggs is indeed obtuse, with no explanation. That will get a rework.
Thanks for playing! The eggs clipping is a known issue, and so is the difficulty in landing eggs. The mouse movement is more complex than just sensitivity, but yes I will have an adjustment.
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delivering eggs is extremely unintuitive
sometimes eggs get stuck under the pan and rack up insane amounts of points
really fun baseline mechanic but in its current state the game has very little to it. Make it multiplayer and people will eat this shit up
Thanks for playing!
You're right about delivering eggs. That will be reworked. The eggs getting stuck are an artifact of the colliders I used, and the multiplier racking up should only need some smoothing on the flip detection.
I really want to get working on multiplayer, but unfortunately I have to deal with marketing and all that nonsense for now.
Has potential. Moving the pan was too clunky for me and it was really uncomfortable for my wrists to cover longer distances to catch eggs in time. As others have mentioned the camera should be angled down more so depth perception is easier. Also it's kinda strange having to press 1 to deliver an egg. Why not just just use left / right click since we're already using the mouse to control the pan?
Looking forward to further updates!
Thanks for playing!
The pan movement needs some tweaking, especially when you have to go across the whole stove. Angling the camera made an immediate improvement to the perception, but I'm still going to add a target or similar for where the egg will land.
Delivering eggs will get a rework. Mouse clicks are an interesting idea, but I'm also leaning towards E for egg. Maybe both.
There weren't any instructions so it took a while to discover that pressing '1' delivers an egg. Managed to deliver like 5 eggs after a few rounds of practice, just wish the eggs didn't keep phasing through the pan and wondering if there's a way to help players get a better sense of depth in the game.
Thanks for playing!
Egg delivering is going to get a complete rework because it's awful. Landing eggs will also become easier once I add a marker.
This is a fun idea, but deserves to be perfected. Position of the eggs depth-wise can be complicated, maybe moving the camera higher and looking down would make this easier. Egg / pan physics are also approximate with eggs goind through the pan (the rim especially) or racking up a multiplier for no reason.
Also it wasn't obvious on the first try that you had to press keys to deliver the eggs.
Thanks for playing!
Positioning the eggs is definitely hard. I tried moving the camera slightly up and that made a huge difference. It looks nearly the same but it's significantly easier to catch eggs.
Delivering eggs will get a rework for sure.
-UI in the top left gets cut off, I am using 16:10 resolution.
-If an egg(intact) is mid-fall and you quit, it will crack open while on the main menu, and when you select Play it will count against(or for) your score. Or it may give no score at all.
-Eggs will easily clip though the pan.
-I had a little trouble eyeballing where the egg would fall, so I ended up mostly staring at the shadows, which felt less in the spirit.
-I was confused why I was getting no score, but it turns out I need to press the related number key, which is unintuitive.
All said, I had an eggcellent time.
Thanks for playing!
Good catch on those first two bugs, I didn't notice them. Eggs clipping, catching a falling egg, and scoring eggs are all usability issues that will absolutely be fixed once I get back to developing.
Huevos con aceite, jamón y queso caliente.
I'm not sure what else to comment but the game itself is a nice diversion. The eggs keep clipping into the pan and my score doesn't go up even when I mastered the egg flipping technique. The combo counter pops up, but the score doesn't change.
If I were to make an arcade game with this concept then I would probably drop most of the horizontal movement and focus on juggling ingredients instead. I mean who fries eggs on a single pan over a 6 burner stove? Unreasonable.
Lamentablemente, solo huevos. (google translate)
Eggs have to be delivered in order to score, which can be done by pressing the number above it, but this is a major usability mistake on my part.
I used to not have pan movement (just rotation), but I was able to throw the eggs so I wanted to be able to catch them. Moving to catch eggs also challenges the player to not drop eggs. This entire game is about being unreasonable.
Thanks for playing!
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2078089011
Nothing to say that hasn’t been said… making the camera more top-down could help with the egg catching.
Thanks for playing!
I've taken your advice and adjusted the camera upwards. A relatively small change made a world of difference, but I'm also going to add an indicator for where the egg will land.
I noticed you have a 144hz monitor. Did you happen to notice whether it's running at 60hz or 144hz? Despite the dropdown, I haven't actually implemented refresh rate switching, and I might just auto-set it to the highest instead of offering a choice.
It’s running at 144 Hz, yeah.
I have some trouble with depth perception, so catching dropping eggs proved to be pretty difficult for me. I tried watching the shadows, but since the pan covers the egg shadows if they're above it, sometimes an egg would spawn and I would think it was positioned over the pan, only for the shadow to appear in an area I wasn't covering a bit later as it got closer to the surface. I suck, in other words. The eggs clip through the pan super easily, as well. It's a neat concept and I could see it being a lot of fun with how hectic it gets, but I was thoroughly filtered.
Thanks for playing!
It's not your depth perception, it's legitimately tough to tell where the egg will land. The shadow makes it worse because the light comes in at an angle. Clipping eggs will be fixed for sure, this game is a bit tough as is with the idiosyncrasies.
eggs easily clip with the pan. i also don't really understand how to deliver them. the pan is also indeed way too slow and clunky, so often when i lose an eggs it feels "unfair"
Thanks for playing! The eggs clipping is a known issue, and you're definitely not the only one who couldn't deliver eggs. Movement will be adjusted in the future.
It's eggcellent ha-ha-ha... Eggs dropped on the stove plates should start burning and smoking, fucking you up even more. Eggs will often get stuck inside the pan somehow, you can also bug them out and get a massive multiplier: https://files.catbox.moe/rmcp1r.webm
Hard to gauge the distance to where the eggs actually are, without looking at the shadows. Not sure how to fix that, uhh make a VR version..?
How to actually deliver the eggs was very obtuse. At first I assumed the numbers where the order they got cooked in.
Thanks for playing! Good news is burnt eggs are on the roadmap. As a gameplay feature they'll burn if you leave them in the pan too long, so from there it will be easy to burn them if they're on the stove. I think I'll add a smoke effect to burning eggs so it'll be a permanent punishment to drop an egg. With that said, I'm going to add an indicator for where the egg will land so they will be easier to catch.
The massive multiplier just needs a bit of smoothing to ensure the egg is properly and fully flipped.
VR probably won't happen because I don't own a headset, but motion controls might be added.
Delivering the eggs is indeed obtuse, with no explanation. That will get a rework.
* Most eggs were clipping through the pan but I assume this is nothing.
* Had to check for shadows of the eggs.
* My main gripe is how slow the pan is. Will you had options for mouse sensitivity?
Thanks for playing! The eggs clipping is a known issue, and so is the difficulty in landing eggs. The mouse movement is more complex than just sensitivity, but yes I will have an adjustment.
Got -500 points and eggs everywhere. 10/10
Thanks for playing!