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A jam submission

InterpaneView game page

A Puzzle Platformer That Is Out of This World
Submitted by LRFLEW, Mypetblackie — 9 minutes, 19 seconds before the deadline
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Results

CriteriaRankScore*Raw Score
Mechanics & gameplay loop?#14.5294.529
Please provide some feedback! Be kind.#24.2944.294
Accessibility?#43.9413.941
Adherence to the theme?#74.3534.353
Environment, aesthetics, mood?#103.7653.765

Ranked from 17 ratings. Score is adjusted from raw score by the median number of ratings per game in the jam.

Team Members
LRFLEW and Mypetblackie

Generative AI
none

Source Code
Included download option. Also available at https://github.com/LRFLEW/Halcyon2023

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Submitted(+1)

Pretty awesome game, very impressive 😀

I don’t know if you actually explained how it works somewhere, but I actually figured it out myself. Once I figured out the right keywords, the actual way to implement it was not too difficult to found (the Reddit post that explained the settings was from someone I actually posted a Github PR to recently actually).

Once you know it exists, it’s actually straight forward (more or less) to think it’s a functionality you could use to make a game ^^

There is definitively a lot of puzzle ideas that come to mind ^^

That must have been difficult to implement though, good job making it work in 2/3 days.

Jam Host(+2)

This is brilliant but I’m not good enough at puzzle games. I got stuck on the 2nd level xD

Submitted(+3)

From someone who regularly breaks games, it's a pretty interesting concept! The first thing that comes to mind is definitely Rhythm Doctor's moving windows stage.

Transparency didn't work for me (Meaning black squares behind every PNG), unfortunately, and I didn't see the arrow hint in the first level. Ended up doing a jump while moving the window to avoid the second obstacle, cheesing it. I thought that was the intended way of solving it - the box being a red herring.

With that difficulty level in mind, I was actually excited at the game's puzzle potential on the next levels! Unfortunately, the subsequent levels are very easy compared to the first trick I pulled off, which was confusing until I saw the actual intended way of the first level.

The game introduces multiple mechanics in a single level - for the average non-puzzle enjoyer, this will confuse and frustrate them! On the first level, the game introduced doors, pressure plates, moveable boxes, moveable windows, and resizable windows whereas it could've started with only the moveable  windows.

I'm wondering about the door, pressure plate, and box mechanic. It was only explored in the first level and nowhere else. Why introduce it if you're not going to use it again? It's a bit disappointing - it could've had so much application in the following puzzles, but instead, the number of mechanics seemed to regress consistently, which brings me to...

This is the case with the other only-moving-windows-around mechanic as well. While a safe space is provided to explore that mechanic, that is no culmination in what is taught. The last level could've been the first level, only teaching one mechanic, which is to move windows. And only then, teach the players new mechanics such as doors, moveable boxes, resizing windows and more, which will definitely make more sense.

All in all, cleared the game in ~2 minutes, and replayed it once.

That being said, controls are tight, music and sound are very good, the art is there, and it's still an interesting initial concept. It could use work from a design perspective, but that's alright for a jam, as I do not expect a polished AAA quality game within 3 days. :)

Developer (1 edit) (+1)

Thanks for the in-depth response. I'll certainly have to keep this in mind with future game jams and if I work on this game post-jam. I did want to go over some of what you said and respond to it directly.

The first thing that comes to mind is definitely Rhythm Doctor's moving windows stage.

I actually haven't played Rhythm Doctor yet, but I did watch a video of that stage, and it's on my list of games to play. In retrospect, I think the idea for this game was largely inspired by Outcore: Desktop Adventure, but that's more reminiscent of desktop buddies and is more of an action-platformer than a puzzle-platformer. (I do very much recommend Outcore, though. It's a great and, shockingly, free game).

Transparency didn't work for me (Meaning black squares behind every PNG)

I did have a note about this on the game page, since a playtester did run into this issue, but we got the cause wrong, and I removed it when it was shown not to be the cause. I have since added a new note to the game page based on the information you provided (thanks). I included some workarounds, but I don't expect you to replay the game for that or anything.

Ended up doing a jump while moving the window to avoid the second obstacle, cheesing it. I thought that was the intended way of solving it - the box being a red herring.

Congratulations: you figured out the speedrunning route. I had thought of that about that when I made the level, but decided it was more interesting to leave it in for experienced player than to try and prevent it. I thought it was unlikely that anybody would think it's the intended solution, but clearly I shouldn't have made assumptions. Most of the other levels also have less obvious solutions that are slightly faster, which is partly why we included an in-game timer to try and encourage the kinds of people who would seek that sort of thing out.

The game introduces multiple mechanics in a single level...

Ok, the context of what happened here is that it was both a side-effect of the development process, and an attempt at something that maybe didn't convey very well.

What's important to keep in mind is that the levels were created in the order that they occur in the game. The first level was designed by me before I even started coding anything. The test I made of the concept was just the box falling out of the window. As I said in another comment, the idea was this was meant as an iteration of a basic puzzle structure that's in a number of puzzle games. The example that comes to mind for me is Portal 2, where there are a number of levels that require you to do something to lower a platform, stand on the platform, then use portals to do something to get the platform to rise.

The second level was one that I made (had to double-check my chat log to remember who designed that one) very quickly after making the first level. I also described it as a tutorial level, and hadn't entirely decided what I was going to do with it. More importantly, I kinda ran out of ideas with that one, and asked Mypetblackie to come up with some level concepts.

She ended up sending a few different level concepts, but a lot of her ideas involved adding even more game mechanics (eg. one suggestion involved canons you could launch yourself out of). I was quickly growing concerned about running out of time with the game jam. Implementing more objects with unique behaviors would take increasingly more development time (keep in mind that the game mechanic where things off-screen stop existing causes everything to become more complicated to implement), and I was worried we were headed in a direction where each level introduced its own mechanic that would take significant time to implement. I challenged Mypetblackie to design levels with the mechanics we already had. The result of that were levels 3 and 4, which notably didn't make use of a lot of the mechanics of the first level.

When considering the levels, and how I might have re-ordered them, I still don't think the first level would work in the game as anything other than the first level. I still see that first level as a subversion of expectations: the first level looks like a fairly traditional puzzle level until you figure out the twist, and then the subsequent levels build on the twist (level 2 adds multiple windows, level 3 adds falling down into a new area, and level 4 adds non-resizable windows). It's clear from the feedback that the first level has issues with conveying the twist, but I think moving it later into the level would have been worse. That "unintended solution" you found is much more obvious once you have a better grasp of the game mechanics. I think that was a big limitation in bringing those mechanics back in later levels; it's not really feasible to make puzzles around togglable walls when you can just jump over / around / through them. Perhaps ditching that first level I made and making a new introductory level would have been a good idea, but I only realize that in hindsight.

It could use work from a design perspective, but that's alright for a jam, as I do not expect a polished AAA quality game within 3 days. :)

When I first came up with the idea, I was uncertain about pursuing it. I didn't have experience designing puzzle games, and I was very much worried about coming up with enough interesting levels in the time limit. I do think it mostly worked out in the end, and I'm happy with what we made, but I also understand that my inexperience with the genre certainly had an effect on the end result.

Thank you again for your feedback.

Developer

THANK YOU!!! As someone who has literally never designed levels before in her entire life, this is so incredibly helpful and makes so much sense when comparing it to watching people play it live as well as comments saying they got stuck on the first level. Perhaps the first level should've been a straight shot to the door and taught the player to just move the window to the door, as I noticed lots of streamers overlapped windows to reach the goal rather than stretching the windows like we intended. I thought the resizing arrows going over the edge of the screen would be enough, but perhaps we should've used a mouse cursor turning into the stretch window mechanic or something to make it a little more obvious, idk. Your feedback is 100% valued and appreciated :)

And yes I immediately thought of that Rhythm Doctor level when LRFLEW originally pitched the idea to me!! That's when I realized it was likely a feasible project to forward with

Host(+2)

I think everyone below me has already covered what I had prepared for technical feedback!

I will say, however, that this game totally blew my mind! Like, it shattered my understanding of how a program can work 🤣 Very well done! This was crazy creative, and a pleasure to experience!

Thank you for your submission to the HF 2023 Game Jam!

Jam Host(+2)

This game is awesome! I can't believe how creative it is. So very well done!

Submitted(+1)

Nice, really dope idea! Probably most of the things I can recommend are already obvious (more levels, different puzzle/platformer mechanics (switches, mobs, moving platforms, etc.)) But otherwise the game is pretty cool. Maybe one not so obvious thing I can recommend is "connecting" some of the objects to the window position so that some objects move with the window when you drag it.

Developer(+1)

Yes!! I want to add all those things cause they sound like so much fun. However, as you can imagine, this game was pretty hard to code just by how it's built lmao. We also didn't want to pressure ourselves too much and focused mostly on experimenting with just this core mechanic in mind. If we had more time, those would absolutely be next on the list :) Thank you so much for the feedback!!

Submitted(+1)

WOW! This is such a great game. Very clever use of theme and well just clever in general. This would be awesome if you would make it longer.

Submitted(+1)

This is SO CLEVER OMG. Downloading the source code now to see how it works lol

Submitted(+1)

Really cool idea! I may or may not steal the idea for my own use at some point…

The puzzles were great, and really required some different thinking.

Well done!

Submitted(+1)

Also got stuck on the first level LOL, but Im bad at puzzles (Like....BAD) 

Developer (2 edits) (+2)

Since this is the second comment about getting stuck on the first level, I figure I should give a bit of context, as well as a direct hint for anybody who's stuck.

The first level of this game uses a puzzle design that can be found in other puzzle games. However, using only the game mechanics that are immediately obvious, the puzzle is unsolvable. The purpose of this level is to help introduce the main new mechanic for this game. If you get to the last step of the puzzle you can do without the new mechanic, the game gives what I think is a fairly direct hint at what you need to do if you haven't already figured out that mechanic.

If you are still struggling with the level, here's a hint. EDIT: I moved the hint to the game's main page in the description, as I figured out how to make a pseudo spoiler tag there.

Submitted(+1)

Yeah I needed that hint lol, but now that I got it, WOW this is AWESOME

Submitted
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Developer

Have you tried standing between the two pillars?

Submitted(+1)

This was fantastic. Had a smile on my face the entire time I was playing. Awesome work, especially for a 3 day game jam!

Submitted(+1)

This is my personal winner, I never seen a game like this before, and it is really creative. First you think the game is broken somehow until you figure it out and your head implodes.

Submitted (1 edit) (+1)

THIS  GAME IS INSANE! I think this deserves to win. The mechanics are so unique and interesting I really wanna see more levels! I think the art needs a bit more work, but robot is super cute and I love his dance. 5/5 I wanna see more