Hello, thanks for taking a moment to check out this topic.

When itch.io first launched its community, there was no way to post to a blog on project pages, so we added the Devlogs board for people to post their updates. 

Fast-forward a bit and we added the ability to post devlogs directly to project pages, and we integrated it into the creator dashboard. Over a thousand posts a week are published through it.

I left this board around because there are a handful of people running interesting topics. It's pretty confusing that there are two places to post devlogs though. Additionally, there are some logistical issues with this board that we never really fixed. There are quite a few disadvantages with this board:

• Confusing with devlogs feature, should you be posting in both places? 
• The rules aren't clear: should you post a new topic per update, or have one topic with posts for updates? (you should be posting in 1 topic!)
• We weren't strict about moderation: many of the topics are lower quality link dumps. The topic listing shows a lot of lower quality and abandoned posts that you need to sift through
• There's no way to sort the posts, and no clear way to follow the progress of the game. (For topics, you have to subscribe to get notifications, but I think it's more valuable to get people to follow your itch.io account)
• Where the best place to post to drive traffic to posts? This board could potentially be a source of traffic, but it's unclear how much. We've put more effort into making browsing tools for the proper devlogs feature: https://itch.io/devlogs

I've created this topic to get to get feedback about what to do next. The devlogs feature on project page is here to stay, so I want to decide the fate of this board. The format of having a devlog be a message board post is used by a lot of older indie game communities, and has its merits. Do you like this format? Is it important that this board stays around? What are ways that it could be improved to make it more useful assuming it's kept?

I'm also open exploring different ways to format this board. Maybe it could be used to share links to your devlog posts?

By the way, here are some example topics that are doing a good job of having devlogs:

• https://itch.io/t/145701/no-love-jrpg-action-adventure
• https://itch.io/t/60734/delvedown-2d-platformer-downwellgameboy-inspired-game-is...
• https://itch.io/t/188623/epicinium-environmental-turn-based-strategy-beta
• https://itch.io/t/36171/battle-gem-ponies-devlog
• https://itch.io/t/26523/error-ware-2-try-the-demo

If we make any big changes, then I'll definitely look for a way to make sure these posts are migrated and can live on.

Thanks

I was already keeping up a devlog on the forum when the devlog feature launched, so I had to post my updates to both to keep them consistent which was a hassle, so not having to duplicate things would be nice. It was a very major driver of traffic for me back then. I feel that https://itch.io/devlogs is very crowded, it is very hard for me as player to see things I'm interested in playing, so having an option to filter there might make discovery easier. More metadata might also be nice there, since each entry tells me about the contents of the devlog posts, but almost nothing about the game itself. I really like the pop-up that appears when you hover over a thumbnail on other parts of the site, and having that here would help me a lot to understand the context of the devlog update on the devlogs page of a game I don't know.

On the forum, I like that all recent update are all visible on a single page, it allows me to just scroll past things and just looking at all the images until I see something that interests me. On game pages, posts are only discerned by a title and how long ago they were posted, more metadata there might be nice, maybe even a "Show All Posts" option? A view of devlog posts on the main game page similar to https://itch.io/devlogs with displayed images and excerpt for each post might help devlog posts be a more visible and prominent part of the game page.

I also feel that posting a smaller update (like just a screenshot) on the forum is more acceptable than posting a small news item with the devlog feature, because it feels more like a "News" feature in which you always post significant amounts of text about game updates or something. On the forum you can have a more relaxed conversation around the game, and I don't feel bad about posting "Didn't work on the game much, but here's one cool GIF of something I did work on!" there, where as with the devlog feature everyone gets notifications putting more pressure on me to actually write something meaningful. But maybe that's just me.

"Confusing with devlogs feature, should you be posting in both places? "

I assumed the project devlogs were a way to update followers, and the devlog forum section was where I could post the same updates, in hopes of attracting new people who are not aware of the existing game page (and subsequent devlogs).

"The rules aren't clear: should you post a new topic per update, or have one topic with posts for updates? (you should be posting in 1 topic!)"

Although it's true - I believe it's also common sense (to post updates to a singular topic). I think the only people doing this are 1) new to forums in general (as most forums have a rule of "post updates in the same topic" or 2) doing it on purpose to try and gain more views because their old topic has no replies/little interest.

"There's no way to sort the posts, and no clear way to follow the progress of the game. (For topics, you have to subscribe to get notifications, but I think it's more valuable to get people to follow your itch.io account)"

The inability to sort posts is a problem... at least in the sense that it can take much longer to discover what you're looking for in terms of games. I don't think there needs to be an additional way to follow the game via the forum devlogs. I would think anybody interested would look at the game page and then follow it. after discovering the public devlog

"Where the best place to post to drive traffic to posts? This board could potentially be a source of traffic, but it's unclear how much"

This is true, but it's almost impossible to be accurate without detailed feedback:

- how many people viewed the devlog and then viewed the game?
- how many people viewed the devlog, viewed the game and then downloaded it?

Would it be possible to track views from devlogs, similar to how tracking many views your page gets from a direct link, or from searching the "new" or "platform" section? (ie. 6 views from people looking through [windows] and [new] games.

Also, allowing devlogs (in the public form) to be tagged with their platform (windows, osx, linux, android etc) and being able to search for devlogs tagged with those platforms, might help boost views. Similar to how you can tag it with a completion percentage.

> search for all windows games 50% complete or more
> search for everything 70% complete or above, regardless of platform
> search for devlogs tagged with "linux" or "android" only

I'm not sure if that would be too granular, or if people would use the system enough to warrant the effort required to implement such a system.

I've been using this board for around a year and I personally enjoy sharing my progress on my game here. I've also gotten good feedback on this board. 

I like the devlogs except when I don't post after a while, I have to click on "Next Page" a couple of  times until I can find my devlog. This can be tiring.  Having the devlogs in the Community section and linking these devlogs to our game pages would be great!

I noticed that my devlog posts are not showing up on the main page so I figured a post here would help with it being seen at least somewhere since I don't have many followers on itch.io. I am sticking to the single post rationale with subsequent replies for updates. Saying that, I think the community part is a bit redundant but it would be good if the main devlog would display new entries from everyone and maybe few more options to sort / prioritize the feeds on the main devlog page.

I have noticed no one reads the devlogs on the project page and found out ppl on this board actually read the devlogs. I don't know the best salutation to fix this but please don't remove the devlog forum.

I have seen some really cool games through the devlog forum section than I would ever see at the project devlog. Yeah I do post on the project devlog(at or before peak times) but it doesn't really capture any traffic.

What I've always wished for (no gamedev forum has this) would be an image for each devlog instead of (or next to) the user avatar.  Maybe not as many devlogs could be seen at once but scrolling is so easy. With a good sized image I would find it easier to recognize projects than only seeing the title name.

(Another possibility would be the devlog as it is now, but the large image appears when you hover over it. I do prefer the first solution though because the eyes are multitudes faster than the hand+CPU, and the page may be less complicated and less CPU intensive.)

I prefer the message board devlogs.

I was semi-considering using the board devlogs as maybe an early dev posting thing. Then maybe, once a project is further along, I'd use the project specific devlogs if I want to communicate any detailed news about something.

I tend to use project specific devlogs for things like notifying when I might take a hiatus, for things like either last minute editing, or if I might extend a project. (There was a time I'd write a lot of web serials.)

It would be cool if you forums had a poll feature,  could post a question like:  Which do you like better, A or B?  And then readers could vote in the poll easily.

Maybe add a banner or sticky for featured  interesting devlogs curated from individual projects.

err, just, can you add a tag for the engine, i mean if it's made whit unity, unreal engine, superpower, gamemaker,ect...

make video uploaders I need to add ads to my devlogs   

being able to print devlogs

#oculusquest2 #gamedeveloper #vrgamedev #scifi #scifigame #spacesalvagevr #sidequest #bugs

add statistics two times in month, highscores of players in new released games and likes on category, (graphic,story,sound,fun,bonus), shortvideos, open help to fix bugs let people join.

Projects to collaborate topic, make team based games and let itch users to share game sources and than build latest version of games, but once a project topic post (inside sub forum: grapics, programming, sounds, concept design - with notify updated partial source and complete build). 

What I'm looking for at the moment is a devlog that I can use to post a teaser for my next adult project.  Ideally it would go to my followers and be visible to anyone else with Adult content enabled.

If I create an unpublished project, will anyone be able to see the devlogs for it?

If the project is tagged Adult, who will the devlog be visible to? Anyone or only those who want to see adult content?

Can we post adult content in the devlog forum?

Hello! Is it possible to download posts from my devlog into md files (for example)? It is not possible via API, as far as i can see, and since devlogs are not pay-protected - API is an overkill, imho.

my usecase: i have a site (landing page) for a game, the site generated with Hugo static site generator. I want to keep adding devlogs entries for my game on itch.io AND THEN show them on game landing page, from time to time. And to avoid manual copy-paste work for keeping landing page up-to-date - it would be cool to have python library (or any cross-platform solution, win+mac at least), that can grab my latest devlog posts and save them as md files locally in proper place for later use with Hugo generator

Hi leafo! First of all, THANKS!  I DO LIKE this DevLogs board very much. Brilliant!... but.......hey, you knew a "but" was coming....:

Among this Board's (DevLogs) rules, one is is for allowing only  "unfinished" projects which is somewhat confusing to me; because,....is there such a thing as a "finished" project? (meaning done 100%). Seasoned Software developers say: "there is no such a thing as a completed project....only ABANDONED projects. To what you might reply: "if you released the project, then you consider it 100% done so it doesn't belong in this Board".  But then I would say: "No, it is not done.  It is USABLE and/or PLAYABLE and/or STABLE; so I released it but there is a lot to come after the release (specially once you get user's feedback) and it is impossible for me to know at what percentage it is right now".

Some of us want more visibility for our projects, and this would help:

 I think you could allow any "completed" games in this DevLogs Board if the author think there will be ANY improvements in the future. I'd like to see what others would comment about this.

I do understand that for Released Games authors have the DevLogs in the games's pages. But there you, as an author, do not get as much "traffic" or "views" as you might get in this Board. On the other hand,  you were asking "how to make this board better", so... IMHO,  again,   I think allowing authors to post their progress HERE would make this board better.

Thanks again!

Please, make it work at least =))))

Ok, I got the idea!

I have to have a project first.

So, the dialog with some meaningful text, when trying to convert a post to a devlog entry, would be very handy =)

I think this forum should concentrate on the fact that you can post devlogs here for games that you haven't put up on itch.io yet, so for the projects that are not finished games yet (at least that's how I've experienced it, correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe you could build on that aspect and add additional features for promoting a not-finished product, I feel like itch is still lacking features for that

I think I would prefer if devlogs were automatically also put in this forum when you posted them. Or at least there could be a checkbox you could tick.

Alternatively (just brainstorming here), make it so that when I post a devlog, have a thread be generated here with either the full devlog or an except, and a link to the actual devlog on the project page where people can add comments and whatnot. The except would be written by the poster (have a separate textbook labeled Excerpt) or just be the first x words or whatever.

Also I like the idea of curated devlogs.