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what if yume nikki and life sim but lewd? · By unnie

Getting Lost in the Forest?

A topic by CloudJiv created 13 days ago Views: 1,159 Replies: 97
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I’m starting this thread to consolidate questions related to the Forest.

If you’re struggling with something there, please put in at least a few hours to try solving it first. If you’re still stuck, This would be the thread for you to check.

Is there any point to Use>Name the different Mushrooms other than personal reference?

Do all mushrooms that look the same behave the same way?

Is there a dependable way to get the key to the shackle? If memory serves, I remember a need for scissors in there, and just was able to bring them- but was unsuccessful on getting into the shack with them.

Also!

The entire forest section just sorta seems there. I can't find any story objective to explore there- which is putting a stall in my motivation.

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Mushroom naming is either personal preference or to align with scientific nomenclature for easier time with alchemy. But f they look the same, they function the same, unless it's a doppelganger, one of the "Hydras", or one of the Dreamshroom/Deathspore/Mindsap/Echo mushrooms.

The forest does actually have thematic storyline, it's supposed to follow 'Dark Forest' story narratives.

If you're talking about the shack then yes there is a dependable way to get one of the keys. It's referenced in one of the journal entries.

Now, Where did you encounter a need for scissors in the forest? I've been trying to identify the use for a pair of scissors for awhile now.

You can get two keys, the first is hidden near the cabin while the second is held by a monster. You have two options for getting it, first is to "encounter" it and have it disappear, leaving the key behind, or approach it from the bottom and press interact when close to snatch it

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For getting the key from the slime. Not how I was doing it… But I tried it, and, thank u. Because that’s how I ended up accidentally achieving the ‘True’ Festival of Life scenario.

Does anyone have a hint for me on: How to pick up a Lilith mushroom and put it in inventory?

For those curious, I already solved this one.

What even is that mushroom and is it even available in the base forest? I've identified every mushroom except for the four identical ones. Additionally, is there a recipe for getting blue eyes because the only other way I know of involves Malice and I'm not sure you can complete the festival of life that way. I'm also unsure where you can find pages 11,15, and 16 of the journal. I've read that page 16 needs to be crafted but I don't know where to go to find out how. I haven't entered the library with the painted book, I haven't opened the chest in the west manor that requires the east manor key, and I haven't found out anything about making it rain.

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Yes, the Lilith is available in the normal forest.

For a hint about character customization, speak to the ghost tree who likes to play dress-up.

Cannot remember off the top of my head where I found 11 or 15, but you cannot obtain 16 until you solve the Lilith and Hydra problems. Both require alchemy recipes.

Painted book isn’t for the library, and a ‘mother can do the ritual’ to conjure a second paint jar.

Does completing the Festival make it rain? Seemingly everything I need to do next in the forest requires it to rain. The only things I can possibly do now is try to complete the Festival or try to open the mushroom chest.

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well… The Festival is essentially a rain dance ceremony.

PS: Do not overlook the strange key room. Very Very valuable information in there.

I did find the hint to where the time changer is located. Unless there is more there that I missed.

I have identified two different sets of numeric values which produce results personally, cannot say if there's only two or if there are more than two. The Chrono Plate certainly is the only one that was obvious to me though, the other one was well embedded inside a different hint.

Does anyone know how to procure 'painted wood'?

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The colored trees lead a path to certain areas, you might want to look in the hut for a tool you will need.

I actually just recently found a chest called "The Painted Chest", but the "Painted Key" for it is one I've never come across in my >100 hrs playing this game. I'm currently under the impression the painted wood might be in that chest.

I've gotten the painted wood before and it isnt from the chest, there is a tool behind the cauldron in the hut than can be use to interact with the trees in the painted world.

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The Axe? hmm, okay. Thanks

I have tried a couple of combos trying to get "True Sight", but haven't gotten anywhere. I accidently did it twice before but not sure how to actually trigger it. Any hints on where I should be looking for it?

One must sacrifice time, use their brain, and may need to endure a little pain.

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Figured Out that there are 3 different "forests", the base forest, the gray scale one, and the "painted" forest, you can get the painted wood from the painted forest.  If you want a hint then I'll say North may not be North.

If you had to give a hint for how to figure out north, what would it be?

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you need to find the compass in the grayscale forest, there is a page that tells how to get to it

Mhm ok

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Finally making it rain. See you in Wonderland.

Read the clue packages carefully. Don’t overthink it like I did initially, but don’t overlook any details. It’s well worth the effort, promise.

How do I know if im on the right path to the painted forest?

If you’re reading the directions, and have your compass properly oriented, you’ll find your way to your intended destination.

So im in the library looking for the book that page 14 says too look for, but i cant seem to find it using any key words in the school library

Search by the ‘Reference’

Where should I look to make it snow?

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it’ll become clear after you obtain journal entry 15. Obtain it, solve it, make it snow.

Also, just discovered the knowledge you gain from trees only actually works if you create a save after obtaining. Player knowledge is not enough, apparently. Even having a journal entry (but not reading it) can prevent you from crafting something despite knowing the recipe.

Do you have any  hints for where Page 15 is?

Sorry, I can’t recall what that one was specifically. It’s been a minute.

If someone else doesn’t mind: feel free to chime in.

I knew the list I made would come in handy. The location of Page 15 is hinted at after completing a certain tree's request. If you still require more hints after this I can tell you which tree in particular.

Yeah I would appreciate if you could tell me which tree cause there are 3 trees with quests and I cant seem to solve them rn

It involves the tree that wants the Lilyth. Once you can properly handle one and talk to it, I believe it tells you about something underneath it. If you didn't get the hint after showing it the Lilyth the tree then becomes the one that slaps your butt. The tree that gives you the Crusty Key is the tree you are looking for.

festival of life time, goodness am I not looking forward to trying to do this.


I have to return to true sight? How do I know if I'm able to do this? How do I kick it off?


I guess I need to re read the journal?

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let me just say… It’s a LOT. I have nearly 3 pages of notes to make sure I don’t forget anything in my dream cycles.

True sight requires all three of the mushrooms, in I believe a specific but (I don’t think specified) order.

yeah, it requires all three in a specific order and it was pretty irritating when I had reload a quick save and then go through all the steps to try the different order.

That AND testing the firmware were just the pits. I wish there were save points in dreams for such an occasion.

hahaha, man it took me over 120hr play hours of mostly reloading save to ‘try again’. Having to replay a cycle that took me over an hour, 5 times, only to realize I couldn’t even craft the thing I needed to because my PC ‘technically’ hadn’t discovered the recipe yet.

Still haven’t figured out what the Red Book from the Mansion goes to, and still haven’t crafted journal pg 16 yet. Did find out what the Mansion’s Empty Jar is for -inducing frustration- so there that.

Developer

You get the correct firmware from the page at the outpost, near the rift. The book is used in the library.

this might be a dumb question but what is "the outpost"? Is a common area that I just haven't registered the name of? Or is it a spot that one stumbles upon?

Developer

The place with the rift connecting the woods with the lab dream.

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Ohhh, Festival of Life… I thought you meant you were trying to tackle the Snow stuff…

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Woah! I guess I finally ‘completely’ satisfied the Forest Mother’s tastes and unlocked the ‘true’ scenario. Kinda reminds me of Ukuzala.

Just got the same thing, no idea what triggered it. Hair, eyes, and measurements were the same but for some reason it *just* triggered. No idea what the purpose for pregnancy is outside of limeting certain areas (for the time being), but it does help with a few other roadblocks

If you've read the book inside the tree gate, to the right at the ruins, it'll make sense.

Did you figure out how to lock 'that' into the real world? It doesn't seem to work the same way as the blue ghosts method, and I haven't actually tried with the blue maiden's babies yet... I haven't been on in several days though, college started back up...

I have! Its actually rather easy. Once you get "that", the blue maidens will ignore you can you can safley traverse to another area to lock it in. Note, from what I have found, you need to put on dream clothing for the lock in to work.

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dream clothing? You do you mean, we have to swap dresses to get it locked in? That I hadn’t even occurred to me to try. Will give it a go when I get a chance to log in next.

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That seems what works for me the most consistently.To be specific, I use Jessicas clothes, I have not tried it with the other options, but when i walk by the mirror when i first load in, nothing, but if i walk in with her dress on, it works.


*Assuming you're wearing the cursed gown, just upstairs magic ray to get rid of it.


**Side hint for anyone who reads this, you dont need to *look* like jessica to get her door open.

? Have you discovered a consistent way around needing to ‘look like’ Jessica? All my tests support that it’s essentially, and there seemed to be no way around it.

I regularly walk in with blond hair and blue eyes, only get jessicas clothes, dont get the posession, and it lets me in just fine.

If that’s true, that’s kinda annoying because it usually rejects me if I forget to go to the door before the transformation expires.

Frankly, I think a lot of the fun of this game is not knowing if something is a bug/exploit or an intended solution lmao. I'd love a discord to document weird shit we find.

I was able to enter the room on a file where I triggered the mirror Jessica transformation prior and never chose to swap back. I was blond with blue eyes wearing the default outfit and the door let me pass. I was not possessed by the ghost or wearing her outfit.

ohhh, that’s what you meant. I noticed that happening too, but forgot about it because I kept making sure it couldn’t happen because it was messing with my plans for my dream cycles.

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Just verified, dream dress allowed passage prior to possession. But not in all cases. So there’s some other factor necessary.

So im trying to do the festival of life, but when I wear the dress, get hips and breast to right size, it still doesnt do anything? Am I missing something or have I broken my save again?

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You're missing the maiden’s likeness. Read the school hint again 

Ah. So I need to find the rainbow woods. Ive been struggling with that

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hint: North is not Up. True Sight or the Compass can both show you exactly what we mean by that.

That is my road block. I cannot seem to find a compass or get True Sight

Stand in front of the cabin and head straight in front of it until you encounter a large dendroid (tree) with orange leaves. That’s your starting point.

As for True Sight. Apparently there are two different ways to achieve that. The easily accessible one, I will refer to my previous response to Ashekile about it.

I cannot find the rusty key in the forest. I swear I found it before but I can no longer find it.

you likely found the crusty key.

If that opens the chest under the mushrooms then that is the key I need. However, I still only found it once and cannot find it again to open that chest.

That’s strange, did you ever read a journal entry referring to a C-Remover then not save afterwards? Because the game code doesn’t allow you to obtain that key before your PC has the relevant knowledge.

I don't think I did but that would explain why I can't find it. I have now obtained every entry aside from 16, assuming that the entries go 1-18 then the ???, that I know of. Now I just need to make it snow or otherwise find  the desaturated trees. That should then allow me to craft the recipes unlocked by making it rain and letting me find the key to the magic chest.

There has to be a guaranteed way to find a true hydra. The journal entry is no help at all. I know that there are 11 hydras and that 10 of them are false. A 1 in 11 chance of identifying the true hydra is ridiculous.

Yes, there is an alchemy recipe for a 'catalyst'

Is that catalyst the C-Remover? It can't be since it requires a true hydra to craft it. Is the catalyst recipe found in the magic chest or painted chest? Is it related to the second set of numbers you found for the cabin library? How would someone go about painting the chest in the first place? Never mind about the painting I figured it out. Every recipe I currently have written down aside from the C-Remover needs Frost Caps but I'm seeming stuck in a loop of needing to solve the hydras to get to the Frost Caps and needing the Frost Caps to solve the hydras. The Malice cure needs Frost Caps. The walk through matter potion needs Frost Caps. The only recipe I can actually get the resources to craft that could possibly be called a catalyst would be the suppressant but I don't think that's it.

Catalyst recipe: Cabin Library sounds familiar for this, but it is not related to C-Remover nor the Suppressant. They are all separate recipes.

Frost cap: not required in Catalyst recipe.

I believe that I managed to find out the catalyst while testing out all possible numbers in the journal entries.

Once you find the lilith, go back to the tree guy who wants it and he'll drop the key again (for a price)

Would love a hint regarding Lilith and True sight stuff. Been stuck on the forest for a couple days now. Figured out the hair and eyes (still need to find the ones that make your eyes blue), but i tried each combo of mid-echo-death shrooms. Broke them down into 3x2x1 to get all the combos, tried each, and none of them gave true sight. I also found the "crusty" key, but it doesnt work for the Rusty chest, nor the painted chest in the painted woods.

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You need to find the journal page with a certain recipe to get a Lilith. The specific page is number 11. You need to use the cauldron to craft and use the suppressant before you can pick up a Lilith. True Sight might be randomized but making it rain and finding out how to turn it to night will let you find those 3 mushrooms with 100% certainty. I could tell you my recipe for True Sight but it might not work. I could also tell you the formula for the suppressant but I don't think you can craft it without physically reading Journal Entry 11.

Thanks so much! I found a LOT of other stuff besides true sight, and it feels like the only thing im really missing so far, aside from a few other things. Gonna do a bunch of testing with True Sight now

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I personally do not believe True Sight's combination is randomized, unless it's randomized initially when you start a brand new save. Otherwise, it's always activated from exactly the same combination for me. 100% reliability.

Would you mind sharing your combo? I have tried each combo on all 3 play throughs and none of them have worked.

I just tried it on a new save and it is in fact the same combination. Unless I got extremely lucky the order remained the same. The appearance of the mushrooms change on each new game. You need to eat an Echoshroom, a MindSap, and a Deathcandle in that order. However, if you eat a Dreamshroom you need to start over. Without being able to summon the rain you would have to either guess if the mushroom you cannot identify is a MindSap or a Dreamshroom. Unless you use the guidebook to identify the unknown mushroom to see if it is a MindSap or Dreamshroom.

I concur with this breakdown 

OMG. I was wracking my brain trying to figure out why the cauldron wouldnt spit out the potion, ofc this is the one thing you have to eat and not brew. insane, schizophrenic, i adore it. Thank you so much.

I already provided Ashekile a hint about the true sight combination, that's worked for me. Look at that post, try it out.

Hi folks! Just hope anyone had any pointers on the lilith situation. Also, i noticed people talking about nighttime forest, but it only seems to ever be day time for me. Thanks in advance!

Journal Entry 17 is the first step to to really exploring the night forest. Make sure to bring an axe. However, as far as I know, choosing to wait on the sofa in the cabin will also switch the time in the forest.

how to get out of the grey forest ?

Bring an axe and cut down the colored trees. You will either need True Sight or to be very close to the trees for the color to appear. If I recall correctly there are three trees you will need to cut down.

Can I get another hint for making it snow?  I know how to get the C-remover but I am not sure where/how to use it.  I have page 15 and i know it talks about a "de-saturated dendroid", which to me either means the white tree or the grayscale forests but I am not sure if am missing a step/  Could it be something about heating it like in the page? idk i am just kinda stuck.

The White Tree has no interactions to make it snow. The C-Remover requires some out of the box thinking to use correctly. There is a buried chest that contains what you need to make it snow. The chest itself is locked and rusty. There are 3 keys that you can obtain in the forest without changing the weather: however you may need to change the time of day. The key you seek is one of them.

thanks for the help

I give up. I have been messing around whit this for days and I must be doing something wrong.

How do you do alchemy? Do you put in the mushrooms one by one and brew each of them or you put in all three at the time in the correct order and brew them all at once?

Do you have to do anything else after you brew what ever you needed to do or you just need to exit the basement and see something changed.

Also... anyone knows what to do whit the thirsty tree and where to find a key for the chest under the mushroom cluster. The fragile keys don't seem to work.

Alchemy requires you to put in the required mushrooms all at once and then brew it. No need to put them in the exact order.

You use the item that appears in your inventory after brewing a potion to get it's effect.

If you are trying to get True Sight, you eat the mushrooms rather than brew them.

The PC will only attempt the thirsty tree's request if you were caught by a Malice. That quest only becomes relevant once that happens.

That chest is related to the tree that wants a Lilyth mushroom. The Fragile Keys do not work. This is a hint and not the full solution.

Just adding to what VocalRhapsody said in reference to the thirsty tree: Both getting infected with Malice, and triggering thirsty tree's request are linked to the same time of day. More details on that in your journal, but Do Not go infect yourself unless you already have thirsty tree's 'tip'.