I would reccommend an element for people to ask for a certain style for their weapons down the line like it shows a picture of how they want it exactly.
also maybe you could hire adventurers to go fetch some very rare not craftable materials for you
When it comes to profit margins and how fast you can make money, it seems like everyone has a different expectation of how fast they should progress. I'd recommend using some kind of difficulty setting that would slow down or speed up the accumulation of money. This way everyone could enjoy the game at their own pace.
they're not in shop mode yet because they are not stable enough and are not 100% finished.
It sounds like a convenience in theory, but it would have to be handled very carefully. Otherwise, you'd struggle with assembly since an accidental click might undo the work you just completed. If the shop were bigger, I'd say there could be another table that is just for disassembly. As it stands, though, the anvil works well for me. And try not to store extra parts on the table. If the only things on the table are the ones you are assembling right now, the glitching isn't an issue.
Wow, wrong place to reply. *facepalm* I am so stupid.
Anyway, as it's the right mouse button you usually work on with assembling your parts (to hold them and stick them together) you're not really that much in danger of making a mistake of hitting your sword (with the left mouse button) and disassembling it mistakenly. So for me, I don't think it'd be that much of a nuisance to have the crafting table as the disassembling table.
The dev has said there is a lot he'd like to implement and fix before putting it on steam. I imagine it's hard enough for him to keep up with the bug reports and suggestions he's getting from this relatively small community. Putting it on steam would open it up to a huge audience, and he's expressed that the game is not ready for that yet. Expect it eventually, though. It's clear that he's working hard to make this game great.
If you're interested in discussing a version of MLBS for Mac, there's an open thread about it here: Mac and Linux
Thanks!
Yeah, I've thought about the timers a bit too. I'm not sure how I feel about decreasing the allotted time with the passing of days. On the one hand, it gives you more grace in the beginning when you're learning how to operate and ramps up the difficulty in the later days when you should have a good grasp on the operation. However, I agree that in the later days it becomes very stressful trying to keep up.
I've been thinking it might be nice to have randomization built in to the timers. Some customers want things done quickly, others are more patient. The first few days could still be programmed to be very forgiving, but the later days' timers could range randomly from 45 seconds up to 120 seconds depending on the customers' moods.
To minimize the chance of confusion: after the weapon is placed on the anvil, click on the anvil, not the weapon to break it apart. Happy Smithing!
Dasius has made an offhand comment about a new shop. You can read it HERE. I wouldn't expect it in one of the patch updates, probably on the list for the 0.0.8 update that's currently scheduled for release in April. Happy Smithing!
For part 1 about the Z Menu, check out THESE POSTS for some relevant ideas (as well as a reply from Dasius himself).
For part 2, there's an update planned on the Trello page HERE where you can see that improving the customer interactions is on the to do list.
Part 3 is an interesting idea. It would be great if you could store (and name) a few different recurring orders so that you don't have too keep cycling through all the different menus on the order sheet.
Happy Smithing!
If you'd like to keep up to date on the current progress and plans, check out the Trello page for MLBS HERE. If you look under the planned updates, you'll see that Update 0.0.9 is planned for having better AI interaction with the player (might include multiple customers at once or customers asking for multiple items), and Update 0.1.1 is title "Weapons Galore" (that one seems self explanatory). Happy Smitihing!
Hi MrBubbles71!
I know exactly how you feel! I've always been an inverted Y gamer, and this game forced me to get used to the other way. I was pretty clumsy for a long time. There have also been requests for being able to customize the controls, so getting an invert Y-axis button will probably come with that update. Check out the Trello page HERE to keep up to date on the game's progress. You'll find "Input Mapping" under the Issues list, but the work on it is currently suspended.
Thanks for the suggestion and Happy Smithing!
@Faultedcat: Good idea! This could resolve some of the problems players are having such as changing the resolution to an unsupported one. You've got my vote! Happy Smithing!
If you'd like to keep up to date on the latest developments and patches (and even vote for features you'd like to see included in MLBS), check out the Trello page HERE. Happy Smithing!
Hey Blazing Shiny,
There is plans for a multiplayer.
Glad you are enjoying the game.
You can check out my Trello page and leave your suggestions there as well. :)
just thinking if you add multiplayer maybe customize player options could be a thing!
Some Ideas
1. a new type of knife blade design based off a sword breaker
2. to implement higher tier grips and guards
3. if there are higher tier grips and guards, give items a bonus to selling price if they are near the same tier but give a disadvantage to the price if the tiers are far apart
Hi WhiteNoise! If you'd like to add your voice to the Mac request (or check out some players' workarounds) check out this sticky thread: Mac and Linux
Also, you can sign in (or sign up) to the My Little Blacksmith Shop Trello page and vote for a Mac version HERE.
Thanks!
I don't want to go off on you here but it's very easy to say you'd be good at something when you don't know anything about it. A bright and shiny idea takes so much to put down in a game because you have to break it down to literally every single aspect. Every blade and design of that blade needs to be hand crafted; the size and shape, color, any extra bits that look a little different need to aligned and rendered and tweaked. The hit box and physics need to be programmed (if contact with floor = true then pull x and y axis of coordinate X=741, Y=0, Z=18 to floating point of floor coordinate X=float minus X of the blade, Y=.... etc...
But anyways, aside from "Hey, it's easy! You just have to know how to do it!" I'd like to look at your ideas for the game. I'm not affiliated with the developer, just a guy who likes what he's done with the game so far who also has some time on his hands.
1. This is probably a design choice. This is a game about being a blacksmith and running a shop so I could see "go out and kill slimes" being completely off track for what he invisioned for this game. Maybe it's not and he might end up doing something with that but for all of us who like the idea of running a blacksmith shop and making cool weapons might not like the direction of a questing game to go out and slay 15 dragons to get a cool new blueprint.
2. This comes back to how much work is involved with actually making each and every blade, hammer, hilt, guard, etc... I'm sure he's working on something for this already or he has plans to do so. Actually I believe I saw on his Trello page that there are quite a few things that he's currently working on such as shields and more designs.
3. It used to be so much less that you blew through each and every ingot in just a couple in-game days and the game was just done, over, too boring to continue. I'm sure this isn't the final product by any means but it does give new guys something to strive for and is much better than a 15 minute "Okay I made everything, I'm done" kind of experience.
4. These are multiple jumbled ideas crammed in to one selection. It's very hard to take anything from what you even put here other than "Make the game better!". He's working on a lot of these things and others might make for good ideas/suggestions by themselves. The bigger house is going to be worked on at least. Who knows what he's going to end up doing in the long run.
5. I really like this one. I do know that wood working is a possible thing in the future that will be coming up and if you checked out the 0.72 sandbox bode you'd see that mining is already being tested. I do really like the idea of each item being staged in terms of upgrades to make each one easier though. Great idea.
6. This has been brought up a few times and continues to be brought up on the Trello page. There has been talk about having other shops and buying things from those shops in person, hiring a goon to go pick stuff up for you... There's a lot of talk already on that front, hopefully we see something soon on that after most of the bug fixes are completed.
Again, not trying to attack you here... Just the way you came across "I'm amazing at this even though I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about" just really rubbed me the wrong way... Maybe I'm just in a bad mood and I'm sorry for that. Either way, I suggest maybe checking out the Trello page and seeing what's going on there too. Get an idea for what's being worked on, what's being talked about and refine some of those ideas a little bit. If you have more like your #5 then I'll personally be looking out for your next suggestions, they could be brilliant.
Also on #3, I know that Dasius is working on balancing the pricing system. The problem at hand is that some players want a casual, quick playthrough with minimal stress or effort, so the pricing would have to be very forgiving. But then other players want a challenge, something that will take a longer time and give them a sense of accomplishment. I don't know which update it would be scheduled for, but Dasius is currently toying with the idea of allowing players to select a difficulty level that will change either ingot pricing or profit margins so that all players can tune the game to their own personal preference. Game balancing (for any game, even board games) can be a very long and tedious process with many missteps, so I'm sure he appreciates any feedback that will help fine tune the system. Thanks for listening, and Happy Smithing!
Hey Heromaster,
I do hope to implement an interesting way of gathering Ores future builds. Same for grips and guards.
Thank you for your suggestion!!
With the current parts that you have, there are a lot of combinations that look like perfectly reasonable, or even better weapons compared to the weapons currently in the game. Could you add some of them?
The Titanium tools, from left to right, would be called: Great Hammer, Great Sledgehammer, Pole-Arm (Or Sledgehammer), Hammer, Small Hammer, Dagger, Spear, Short Sword, Long Sword, Lance, Great Lance, Great Sword. (Not sure on Long Sword).
As an extra note, could you have customers be less picky on some occasions, asking for weapons with attributes such as 'light, heavy, big, small, sharp, blunt, long', with multiple weapons fitting each category. For instance, a "sharp, long" weapon would be either of the lances, the spear, or maybe even the great sword.
Would it be possible to turn a customer into one of the other random npcs after they leave the shop? This would essentially despawn them sooner, without having to bring the exit portal right next to the shop. Getting them to have the same appearance and weapon might be hard, but it avoids the issue nicely.
In any case, it's great to hear that you've got plans for this.
Hey Xenrutcon,
Inverted mouse controlls will be available in the next patch as well as mouse sensitivity.
For discussion of a Mac version (and some workaround options), please check out this thread: Mac and Linux
Hey CryoDaggerPlayzOffical
Love your suggestions, unfortunately, I don't intend on implementing combat for the blacksmith. Although, I can't make a promise that i'll implement it but neither will I say it's completely off the table. Rather, I do feel strongly in the blacksmith playing a supportive role. I'll reveal more when the time comes. For now, hopefully you are still enjoying the game.
Thank you for your suggestions!!
Hi Lollerlance! Invert mouse options are coming in the next patch, along with many other bug fixes. Happy Smithing!
Well this actually is the first version that theoretically HAS the equip function, it just needs a bit more love :D
Armor I THINK I have seen suggested somewhere and it will come :)
And yeah events and attacks are planned, check some of the later updates on trello, either 0.0.8 or 0.0.9
Hi Thor30056! I understand your frustration, but currently the developer does not have a Mac on which to build, so don't expect a Mac version to be released anytime soon. There's a discussion HERE about some possible workarounds in the meantime from other users with Macs. You can also add your vote for a Mac version on the MLBS Trello page HERE. Thanks!
Hi BOBTHEKILLER! Items snap together on the workbench in the orientation of the part you're holding. So if you're holding a grip and it's pointed down toward the table, the blade will be wedged in the table when they snap together. When an item gets stuck in the workbench, follow these steps to unstick it:
Hope this helps, and Happy Smithing!
Be aware that there is a bug where sometimes you dont get paid for the ingot used in an item. Check the price of every sale... and for the time being do what i do, save after every good sale and alt+F4 if you get a bad sale and reload the game.
This could be the reason you dont seem to be making profit to advance. It only takes 1 or 2 bad sales per day to kill all profit.
Hi imperialfish! The ingot pricing is much steeper in the latest version. The profit you make on items you sell is a relatively small percentage markup from the cost, but as you get into the higher tiers, you will make more money. The developer knows that everyone has a different pace they'd like the game to play at. Some people thought the previous version was too easy (you'd usually be done by day 10-15 with no reason to keep making more money other than having a big number). Don't expect this pricing scheme to be set in stone, though, we're still in Alpha. Also, Dasius has been working on the idea of having the pricing tied to a difficulty setting so that players can enjoy the game at their own pace, but that's not implemented yet. Hope you're still enjoying the game even with the increased difficulty and Happy Smithing!
Hey Adie123,
1. Like the idea, will consider it for sure.
3/4. I do want to add the ability for players to place miscellaneous objects in their environment like what you mentioned. Ill look into it as I believe it would add to the game.
Thanx!
Or one person frantically keeping the store stocked (and reasonably neat) while their friend clumsily makes stuff for the customer.
Dev hasnt been active for two weeks. no idea whats happening. The workflow on Trello was suspended and the dev's gone awol it seems. :( ... Lets hope hes gone on vacation for two weeks and comes back to continue... Wouldve been nice to have had some info though prior.
Yeah, Dasius worked really hard for over a month crushing the game breaking bugs everyone was reporting (he's really dedicated to this project). Can't blame him for taking a short break and enjoying time with his family for a bit. After all, he's a one man team on this one. Don't worry, he'll be back at it soon enough :)
Hey gunjamed,
I am working on adding more features to make the game more interesting including end game content. It will take awhile as im trying to release more polished versions of the game.
Hey Recon John,
Glad you are enjoying the game. Ill try to answer your questions.
1. There is no public timeline on when I'll release things. It's difficult to develop a whole game solo and meet deadlines too only fall short. I'll try to be reasonable and release things as fast as possible without sacrificing quality as i've done in the past. So for the moment, I can't say when but I can say it is planned for the next update. Sorry if that was a bit convaluted.
2. Crystals, atm, still have no purpose but they will near end game when they are fully implemented.
3. Every update or so, I try to add more content and destination for the player to visit to break them out of the grind/monotony if they so choose. The next update will have a larger map with more to do.
4. I want to add a element of risk and loss. I think what I am implementing currently will be a good alternative to robberies. But I might still add it at one point. No shop is complete without someone trying to steal your stuff :p.
5. I am working on armor possiblities but I can't make a promise it will be in the next update.
6. Weather is on my todo list. Very close to the top. I'm all about that immersion.
7. I've received this request several times now and I might just have to do it.
8. Unfortunately, bows and arrows don't make sense for a blacksmith game, same with leather armor. Would like to remain in the realm of metal working. This also has been requested alot so i might, far in the future, add specializations like weaponsmithing or armorsmithing.
9.Mining is partially implemented but i'm pushing for full implementation either in this update or the next.
10. Yes! Unreal Engine 4 is the engine I am developping this game on. :)
Hope that answers your questions.
Cheers!
I like the 2nd one. That would be pretty cool... Maybe you could even buy your own land and build on it?
Hey Majgamer,
Thanx for the suggestions.
I believe the customers do say thank you but it does seem more of a "shy thank you". They turn around and leave while saying it so it's possible to miss it. I'll look into making it more obvious.
I do plan on adding a tax/rent system in the game.
I like the idea of adding a hunger system.
Hey Fido,
Thanx for your suggestions.
I am working on adding more depth to the creation process.
the hunting could allow you to acquire leather which could be used in a new system which allows you to tan it and turn it into grips for weapons which could be a late game feature or just a money bonus
Hey Shadowblade4444,
I like the idea of giving out quest to such as fetching materials from the "Players" and then give them a reward. I believe there were a few other suggestions that were loosely similar. I will consider it. Thank you!
Ya I can definately add Pickaxes for mining.
Increase the spawn frequency of the customers is something I am working on. I had it in one of the updates to the game but it almost completly broke the AI, so i had to roll back the changes but I am still looking into it.
Glad you are enjoying the game.
Hey Shadowblade4444,
Glad you are enjoying the game.
I'm hoping to release difficulties for the next update. Thanx for the suggestion!
I'd rather have a finished update than a half-baked one! No one likes half baked cake, I should know, I didn't get paid D:
Hey Tripster124567,
Thanx again for your suggestions.
I wanted to avoid (if possible) using traditional inventory/hotbar systems. I feel it really pulls the player out of the game. I also wanted to keep your screen clean and simple a.m.a.p . This system definitely is not the best nor perfect but I would like to one-day optimize it so it works better. If it does require an alternate method, then I will consider something like a hotbar or inventory.
Cheers!!
You can visit my Trello page and leave any suggestions there as well.
Yeah I understand, it does make the game unique and I do like the idea. The game is still very new aswell so it is expected to be optimized yet, no worries, so far so good!
Also, I'm a bit lost and new to Trello, how can I write a suggestion or bugs I find there? It seems like all I can do is subscribe to each category of cards.
Hey MrPineapple41,
Thanx for your suggestions. Some of your ideas are already being worked on.
Glad you are enjoying the game :)
Cheers!
OH! Maybe something where once you hit a certain threshold of money they begin requesting certain materials. Like once you have 500 in your chest, regardless of what you spend it on, they start asking for tin sometimes. The more you create tin weapons the more they ask for it and so on. Also I think it would be cool if they asked for specific handles and grips in addition to materials, just to keep us on our toes.
Maybe something like a reputation rating for the shop based on how accurately, quickly, and how often you completed requests. Or maybe a system where when the day starts, or week, or month, you recieve commisions based on your reputation. Like 300 swords by the end of the month for his majestys royal army! Then you would have to decide to keep the shop open or focus solely on the comission. Of course small comissions could also happen, like a tin greatsword with a fancy handle by 6 pm.(IDK if there is going to be a clock eventually).
What if once your rep gets high enough you could begin outfitting the army and sometimes wars could start up and based on how well you outfit them the tide of the war updates daily. Then it wouldn't be a game about crafting to make money(because you'd be funded by the king) but instead a battle of how fast you can make weapons.
I have no idea where you're going with this game but I'm gonna enjoy it no matter what lol. Once I get some money I'm going to support you,
Also a bug, there is an odd mirror reflection effect going on with the chimney of the forge. When ever you move ingots around the forge you can see their reflection on the stone wall of the chimney, now I'm no rocket scientist but I don't think rock is supposed to reflect things haha.
I just noticed it now though and I've been playing for 4 hours in just the past few days so It doesn't stick out very much if it was to be pushed of to patch later.
Also, if you continuously hold shift to sprint and make something at the anvil the sprint will be canceled for no reason.
And I think disassembling parts should be added. If you accidently make the wrong tool or if a part combines on accident there isn't a way to salvage the unwanted tool so you have to just throw it away currently.
Also i think maybe some of the metals like titanium, adamantine, etc... are way too expensive and very hard to earn enough money to buy them. Maybe you could make them cheaper and/or make the "players" give you more money for the weapons. I really love this game so far and just finished playing it for about 6-7 hours. I got to day 23 and it gets almost too fast for me. A couple "players" left because i couldn't go fast enough, but still a very good game for a work in progress.
You say that titanium and adamantite are too expensive, but they're actually much quicker to upgrade to then the second metal, tin.
With copper at 10$ and tin at $500, you need to sell 500 ingots worth of copper to reach tin. (not including grips/guards) After that, you only need to sell 20 ingots of tin for iron (at $1000), 50 ingot ofs iron for adelite (at $5000) and that cycle repeats. (Unless it's changed since I last looked.)
I understand your issue, I have it aswell. You need to sell an insane amount of copper tools to reach tin and it isn't purely based off the price of the ingot because you need to factor in the grips and guards, if used, in a part. And ontop of that the prices aren't as exact as they claim to be. The player card that indicates skill points, activated by pressing "P", shows that the base state of charisma gives you a 10% boost of sale prices for a total of 110% money gained from what you spent on making the part. However, if you look at the board on the left wall, inbetween the doors to your bedroom and the forge, it shows all of the prices customers paid for the parts and they almost NEVER match what the skill card indicates. Its still random, you can even LOSE money sometimes for no reason, the customers simply don't pay the right amount. I've had a customer pay $56 for a copper great sword, which used 3 copper ingots, a fancy 2 handed grip, and a 2 handed guard for a total of about $40 give or take, and I've also had the same sword sell for only $24.
It may be possible that the prices depend on how fast you give the items to the customers but I know for sure this system is properly coded yet. Which, in my opinion, is perfectly fine for now because it is still very early in development but it does slow down the progress tremendously and leaves money gain to chance.
Check that board for sale prices you get and monitor to see if time is directly related to the price of a weapon or not and let me know, I'll be doing the same. All I know is that I think the charisma state increases the MAX profit rather then the ACTUAL profit, for now.
You know of all 4?
SPOILERS! DO NOT GO BEYOND
IF YOU WANT TO FIND THEM ON YOUR OWN!
*One is in a river out of your front door and right a little
*One is under the shield by the log out the back of your house, around the Golem.
*One is in the torch directly to the right of your door when going to the anvil.
*One is in the house almost directly out your front door and slightly to the right.
-Bringing all 4 back into that house and holding the Fear crystal has an easter egg :P
No worries Tripster,
I didnt make the feature obvious so most people might not have even noticed it. Good on you and anyone else for finding it.
