Did something break? Please tell me about it.
Roads need a little rework, currently placing a road erases whatever was beneath it, hence why everything turns to grass.
Not building roads on mountains makes sense, maybe with a different type of work designation that could flatten the mountain (to make a pass, or allow for building a mine)
I saw a crash in 1.2.4 around fighting masklings, still trying to chase it down.
Migrants idle when they reach the settlement's influence range (the distance at which you can construct buildings). That influence range is based on population, and can get pretty big. Those idle migrants will stop idling as soon as they're assigned a task.
the migrant groups were outside the settlement range, they were idling in the masklings camp where they spawn (unless they overlapped)
Also sometimes migrants will get stuck travelling to a structure that is just on the other side of something ex: carry bricks to a wall but they walk up to the tower just in front of it instead of going around through the gate
Does that make sense? I often have to delete the structure, and retry but it can happen again, it's almost like I'm guessing if this can be built or not in this place E. Happens almost always with walls in corners that sorta thing
It's possible that a settlement's influence range expanded to a maskling camp, there's no cap on it currently.
As a performance optimization citizens will "give up" if they can't reach a destination or get closer to a destination after a thousand calculations or so. What's happening there is the citizens are getting "stuck" in a spot too far from a door.
The Trade wagon displays as a 3x3 tiles, but in actuallity it only occuplies a 1 tile space. What you're seeing is probably the wagon overlapping onto the water.
There's an issue in 1.2.5 where pathing can ignore structures in some edge cases. I have a fix in 1.3, but I could release it early if it really bugs you.
Edit: Masklings shouldn't ignore the walls, so don't worry about your defenses being useless.
I broke another save. Thanks for "fixing" the first one btw.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xbt4...
This one was created in 1.2.5 but I copied it to 1.2.6 originally it worked and I could close and reload it without a problem but now at the end I closed the entire application and then tried to reload and it just shows fatal error. Got up to over a thousand people this time.
Edit:.
When someone is hurt you can see the "!" in the grey area around the screen.
Savefile fix is in 1.2.7 Looks like world generation was running during the saving process, resulting in a corrupted world. A preventative measure will be in 1.3. The would should load correctly, now though. On a side note, that world will be great for my performance profiling work. Thanks!
That graphics glitch is already fixed in 1.3
Yes it did. It had enough for around 70-100 people I built the whole settlement with the starting 17 people.
I even send in a second migrant wave from the capital after a few Years and started importing food from other settlements because the 17/34 people couldn't support all the houses I had built. It took 3-4 Years for the first real migrants to show up.
You should actually still have the save with that settlement it was the last I uploaded the settlement between the 2 mountain areas. Btw. you said you wanted to use it for performance test. Were you able to fix some of the crashes happening every few minutes?
Yes they are! But its like directly beside my settlement, literally a couple pixels out of tower range.
I did settle directly next to fetile soil near the shallow water though so it may be coincidence
I was just not sure if the interaction was on purpose, since i lose a few villargers to continually alert mode.
I'll take a look at the "wait for buddies" behavior of the Masklings. Maybe have them wait further away, so as to not trigger an alert.
Found some new bugs.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vi9... Maskling camps can spawn on rivers which is kinda weird.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nmq1... If you have a bunch of migrants and send them through a bunch of streets the may become stuck and completly unable to move. I had that situation happen twice in that settlement. Just make a new migrant group and send them north (You can just send them to join the city again and then form a new migrant group).
Another thing I noticed was that masklings camps can be built/spawn on top of each other.
Also the performance stat window in region map mode.
I download it I start the game and when it starts is the version 1.2.0 but until then I did not see problem that version was cool the problem is that When I started to get better more houses large population I click to see the information and gets fatal error, i already tried download again but of the same says that it will be corrected in the next update but I can, every time that I download is the 1.2.0 help
1.2.0 has some bug and some performance problems. The current version is 1.3.2.
If you click the "Download Now" button, you should see a popup with payment options, right above the payment amount box there is a link: "No thanks, just take me to the downloads". Click that, download "bronze-age-windows.zip", and find where it was saved. Unzip and play.
Alternatively you can use the itch.io app which makes installing really easy.
I loaded the save and played for several minutes without crashes. It could be that whatever the problem was it has been fixed by the patch I'm working on. If the problem persists in 1.3.3 (due out today or tomorrow) let me known and I'll take another look.
Another one: the pigs have escaped their pasture and I have no idea how. Nobody seems intent on putting them back either.
Edit: The pigs mostly got re-gathered eventually, but one dude got stuck on a peninsula while gathering pigs (again), which seemingly stopped all pig-gathering business altogether, despite half a dozen empty pastures.
1.3 has an overallocation bug around pigs and tradehouses. When a group of pigs reaches the tradehouse, another batch of pigs is sent out. That's been fixed in 1.4.
There is currently a limit of 1 shepherd per settlement as well, which is why the stuck guy is preventing any other pig gathering. Could you send me the world so I could see how he's getting stuck?
After reloading the game it seems that he got unstuck somehow. He was at the tip of that peninsula while he was stuck. I don't recall having tradehouses when the pig escape happened but maybe I'm wrong.
On a 1440p monitor, the world doesn't fill the game window, I get black bars on the sides like mario 3. 
When I go to place roads, I'll click and hold with the mouse and then move the window with the arrow keys. I'd like them to be straight the whole way. But the game won't render anything new so I just scroll into oblivion.
Yes, I click "export image", it sometimes run for a second or two, and then it gives me the regular "fatal error, bronze age has crashed menu/quit" message. It is in a subfolder of Documents, not Program Files. I'll try running it with admin, see if it changes anything.
PS: Nope, admin doesn't change anything. It creates a folder for it in the export folder ("Eror the plane of chopping turn 76858", number varies a bit), but it's empty.
So Twonky made a temporary fix for those of us eager to try stuff out! Check the comments here: https://commodoreshawn.itch.io/bronze-age/devlog/14251/20-new-era-update
Okay, found a better fix than using Twonky's mod. This is for people who live in regions where commas are used for decimal place. Instructions are for Windows 7 but probably apply to different Windows.
Go to Control Panel -> Region and Language.
Change the Format to some type of English, or else it probably also works if you go to Additional Settings and change the Decimal symbol to "."
I downloaded the new version but I cannot create a new world, everytime the progress bar completes ,,Picking region centers", the fatal error occurs. In the main menu there is a notification that some data files were not loaded. It happens all the time, restarting the game does not help. I have Windows 10.
UPDATE: I tried moving the files around and I managed to find out that I made the most progress with the Komma's fix beacuse with the normal file in the game the fatal error occured but with the Komma's fix I could get trough the loading without any fatal errors but once I was in the starting point choosing menu I couldnt press the [Start] button, it just didnt allowed me to.
Found the problem, it looks like it's due to the "Not enough housing for migrants" notification being present when saving the world. I'll have a fix in the next patch, in the mean-time you should be able to avoid the problem by adjusting the autosave interval, dismissing any notifications, and/or building more housing.
managed to clear out 2 maskling vilages in quick succession, and i have 2 issues; first is what you see in pic1 i was going for a racial purity match and so once i got the first tribe under my belt i starting demolishing their roads (first). This lead to whatever mess we see on top of some of these buildings. The second is that since the whole tribe became commanded by me the second i destroyed their home base, i sent their 15-20 units into the adjacent village with my troops while doing that i decided to demilitarize them and destroyed their war huts. After the war was over they came back to the ruins of their hut and just stood there. Sadly i was spawned on an island so i can't send them on a suicide mission (not even into the ocean), so i think it would be great if there was a disband button on them, or maybe you could speed up the HP degeneration time on the base-less units (idk if that's been implemented yet, i've only heard about it).
As a side thing, i was managing my second town when my troops took it and i had no idea until i saw all the masklings wearing my colors; so i thought it might be nice if once a totem is taken we get a menu screen like in civ where it gives us the option to raze, colonize, or maybe make the citizens into migrant slaves to be moved to another city. You can kinda raze them by destroying the camp, thus killing all maskling slaves and turning the humans into migrants that you can use to resettle the area, but i'd like a simpler option. (PS - if ya need my save file, just ask)
The ability to abandon and reclaim structures is already done for the next update. Abandoned structures won't drain or produce resources or infrastructure, and will slowly decay.
Where ever you downloaded Bronze Age, if you installed it through the itch.io App there is a button in the bottom right (when looking at the Bronze Age page) called "Show local files" that will open the install directory.
I'm seeing some reported errors around trying to load a save file "Inhe The Island Of Hammering". They could be your errors, in that case you may be trying to load an old (pre-2.0) save file. You can check for it in the "saves" folder in the Bronze Age directory. If the file doesn't have an XML extension then it's an old format save file that sadly can't be opened in Bronze Age 2.0.
You could download Bronze Age Classic to play that save file, though.
There's a couple suggestions threads, and feel free to make your own as well. I've thought about making a discord group, but I'm not sure I have the time to manage that as well as the game.
As znuffy said you can build monuments. When fully upgraded they're a very efficient source of morale. If you have patches of fertile soil you can also build gardens.
Resources show up on the zoomed out map, but I like the idea of a "find a resource" window. Stellaris has an "expansion planner", and that sort of thing could work well in Bronze Age.
Towers are a good candidate for keeping vision throughout your territory. They can also slow down attackers that pass through.
I'll see what I can do. Probably cancelable upgrades, but also have the structure keep operating while being upgraded. That way the whole settlement doesn't shut down.
ok thanks for the heads up i will remove bridges also i need to reset all the trade routes as the boats are all suck now going back and forth in an area my next question is once a bridge is built does that permanently cut off that water way as even with the bridge gone ships wont travel over the shallows any more?
why not just let boats go under bridges that would be a clever thing to add to the game with all the broken things you added recently and give happiness back to monuments
Still doesn't work.
Now at the same place it says "Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Graphics.NoSuitableGraphicsDeviceException: Adapter 'NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M ' does not support the Reach profile."
The full text output of the error file is here:
https://pastebin.com/ZMsZLwSa
It seems that indiegames like this have issues with my graphics card quite often, is there some setting I can change on my side, either with my system or with game configs, that will make it easier? For this game, specifically? Am I supposed to conclude that my graphics card is too outdated to run specifically games with pixellated 2D graphics? I mean idk
The problem was on my end.
Sorry about that.
For some complicated reason a program was masking my graphics card, using a bit of software that acts like a driver, which would confuse my system for some programs trying to use the graphics card. I uninstalled the program and I can now run the game.
I'm now having a lot of fun playing your game.
I think a decrease in tin needed in smelters back to 1 and a decrease in tin production in the mines would be good.
This way you can still distribute bronze in your kingdom by shipping tin and smelting it at the settlement where it arrives while at the same time tin is still more valuable than copper.
It looks like it's failing to generate a trade route, and crashing every frame. I'll look into it, thanks.
Edit: yep, it appears to be failing to calculate an impossible trade route. I'll have a fix to more gracefully handle it out tonight. Thanks again for reporting the issue.
Did you exit the game before trying again? There could some memory held on to by the previous world.
Yep that was the problem! was on a mediteranean map, i've just try on mesopotamia and everything was fine^^ thank for the help.
Realy like the happiness mod btw, i t give me more liberty for desining my city wich i realy like. What are you going to do with the happiness building if you implement it in the base game btw?
The performance are not the best in the game "Commodore Shawn" says that performance improvements need to be done with the game.
And map types are not, as much as i know, to change the size of the map. They only change the generation features. For example: Mesopotamia worlds generate with deserts and lakes instead of large oceans, Mediterranean generate ocean in the middle, a ring of land attach to the borders of the maps, and more rivers.
The trade window bug ?!
First of all I'd like to thank you for the great work.
Now, it seems that the trade window doesn't have any scroll bar or any way to shift to other commodities.
I'm not sure if it is a bug or something wrong with my settings, I'm a totally clueless when it comes to programming or any ''PC STUFF'' T.T
I toke a screen shot if it will help.
Thanks
Okay found it, and, hehe I will translate it, since it is write in spanish, It starts with:
========== 10/07/2018 07:17:14 p. m. ==========
Exception
No se puede cargar el archivo o ensamblado 'System.IO.FileSystem, Version=4.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' ni una de sus dependencias. La definición del manifiesto del ensamblado no coincide con la referencia al ensamblado. (Excepción de HRESULT: 0x80131040)
en Bronze.Common.Services.AiAnalyticsService.Initialize()
en Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Initialize()
"(Unable to load the file or assembly 'System.IO.FileSystem, Version=4.0.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' not one of its dependencies. The assembly manifest definition does not match the reference to the assembly. (Exception de HRESULT: 0x80131040)
in Bronze.Common.Services.AiAnalyticsService.Initialize()
in Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Initialize() )"
and then there is like 12974 lines repeating the same:
========== 10/07/2018 07:18:09 p. m. ==========
Exception Referencia a objeto no establecida como instancia de un objeto. en Bronze.Monogame.BronzeAgeGameBase.Update(GameTime gameTime)
"(Object reference not set to an instance of an object.)"
If the buildings are "not operational", you're probably missing input items. Are any of your item stockpiles 0 or negative? From the sounds of it, you might not have enough wood.
Unlike a typical RTS, in Bronze Age units don't just have an upfront cost. They are a constant drain on resources.
You should be able to attack towers if you declare war on the enemy tribe. By default Masklings are just "hostile", which allows you to kill units, but not structures.
OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHhhhh...ok let me have a look....yeah somehow im low in wood :D... and how exactly do lumbermills work? do you place them directly on a tree tile or next to? i know it says to place it on a tree tile but does another one have to be next to it for it to work? do they run out eventually?
I saw this a few times lately, as well the game is LAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGY. i can't play it, only 1/2 FPS, but i'm sure you going to improve the performance on the game.
The crashes happen mostly (as i remember) when deconstructing/upgrading a building(s) with negative amount of idlers.
heh...ok...the next day ( today ) i wanted to send you a screenshot of the error and the game is working again (dont know for how long)...the error was very similar to the one that eyalonsky had...maybe even the same one. I will send a screenshot if it does the error again but for now it works
uhh this tribe non stop spams me with this notification. They constantly keeps coming at a rate its hard to even save and quit the game. I have no idea what triggered this. This is my best world so far because i have bad problems with happiness and administration. So I don't want to lose it if it comes down to that.
alright I uploaded here: https://mega.nz/#!QGRFDSzY!xKed8eDun4kYsz_gseuZEkY7uCuSmSrqhzZsse_EIy8
Oh yeah I accidentally clicked on your profile and you have a space age version of this game? I gotta check this out!
Thanks for playing, and thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for developing this interesting game!
2. You are right, sorry for this one. To be honest I don't like the autosave system as it is, because it interrupts the play, but I don't see any workaround here - I guess it is not possible to make it in the background?
6. I was wondering about one of the annoying things mentioned - to order a construction I need free population. Maybe it would be possible to change this mechanics so that player could construct a queue of buildings to build when there is workforce present (e.g. for building longer roads or wall sections)? What do you think about it?
I can't find crash_log, is it in the starting folder when you click on the extracted file? Also it is in downloads, so no there should be no problem with permissions. Maybe it has something to do with my graphics card? I bought a refurbished dell optiplex 755 which has decent specs but an abismal graphics card and I am unable to play some games due to it, I have obtained a new graphics card that should work for my computer and will tell you if anything changes.
Sometimes the RNG puts settlements (and other starting constructions) in rather..... sub-optimal locations. I just conquered their neighbor, and now two-province Ashisor is about to lose the shortest war in the history of Bronze Age (EDIT: it took 17 seconds). In addition, one of their provinces has exactly two non-mountain tiles, so it's about as useful as a submarine screen door.
Bonus fact: five-province Bonechopper Tribe (just west of Ashisor) is completely split in two by mountains (quite possibly from another wonky start), so if when I attack the two eastern provinces, the three western provinces are completely unable to assist.
Speaking of bug reports, if the window is too small (in my case, windowed on a 1920x1080 monitor) the settlement list and army list can overlap the lower-left panel. More seriously, on 50x50 maps, zoomed-out tiles can glitch. Yes, I have a mod here (which simply adds a new map), but I've seen both of these in entirely vanilla gameplay .
EDIT: I should also add that a town view of a town in a desert still uses the same exact tileset as a grasslands settlement, even if there's no sign of grass being anywhere nearby.
The saves: https://download1072.mediafire.com/ytaok8pchqkg/lm4bohrrlh0ruc8/saves.zip
The map: https://download1072.mediafire.com/thew06r98umg/jr7ln87sdhwivyf/atma_maps.zip
Yes, there's only one map despite the filename; ideally I'll make and add more maps, but I'll have to study what we have now to make maps that work.
Bug report 1: The AI thinks building a trade yard is a high priority, even over removing ruins. Furthermore, building trade yards seems to be a higher priority in 3.1.0 than in 3.0.0. As a result, the AI can wind up being ruins collectors:
Bug report 2: The AI is poor at waging war. In the above screenshot's game, even as a ghoul unit was creating ruins, the white-outline force sent a single levy unit to try and defeat their northernmost province's lion nest. They're also more than willing to send a clearly insufficient force to attack a ghoul unit (levy only, equal or inferior numbers).
EDIT: Just after that image I took the empty land northeast of white-outline (carpe diem!) and exchanged maps with the blue-purple just northwest of white outline... who has four more ghoul units causing problems. Therefore...
Bug report 3: As of 3.1.0, the AI cannot handle ghouls.
LATE EDIT: I've seen that the AI obsessions vary. Sometimes they really want trade posts, sometimes they really want farms, but on multiple occasions I've seen an AI build the same building over and over in the same territory.
By the way, how exactly does attrition work? It seems attrition persists even if the units end up in a region where I have the surplus resources that ought to cover their supply. I think - not entirely sure - I get scenarios where some supply resource ended up negative because of city growth, but the army just keeps starving when that is fixed, leading to stuff like an army of nobles just starving to death on my capital tile that's pouring over with resources.
Well, as I mentioned in the other thread, I am unsure how warehouses actually work. I can see how they offer extra room for storage, but I'm not sure how they directly or indirectly are supposed to influence how things are run. Like, is it for some reason more plausible that resources will be distributed to demands if there's a warehouse? How does it work?
Also, I guess it's interesting that some worker actually has to move the goods physically to the map edge.
About that (I guess it's a different topic altogether): to what extent are good moved around physically in settlements like you see the wheelbarrow guys if you actually check in a city screen? Is this actually done that way in all settlements including computer ones? I also seem to run into performance issues (basically FPS death on quite a new computer) when I get to a later game with bigger cities and computer factions being very busy. Including when on overworld view. Is it actually actively rendering all the particular good transports moving over the settlement maps of all the settlements in the world or something? I can see how that would cause fps death.
Warehouses do two things: they store items, and they increase delivery range. Most structures can only deliver items to 10 tiles away or so. Warehouses have a practically unlimited delivery range.
The wheelbarrow people technically exist for each city (not villages) in the world. Their overhead is incredibly small, though, as it's essentially moving along a number line. I believe that the current performance drag is down to logic running on individual structures, but I'll look into that more after tactical combat.
So the guy you least want to hear from finally got out to testing out 3.2 and, well, the graphics are still not 100%; when fully zoomed out, the visible part is shifted up by four pixels. Sorry. :(
I fear I'm running out of graphics-issue-related flavor text (but hopefully we'll finally squash that last graphical issue!).
Speaking of bug reports, I found a rare one.
See the eight-province red-yellow maskling tribe? The correct answer is "no", as that's actually two tribes with the same culture, same primary color, and same secondary color. They even have similar names (three-province Bloodcrusher Clan in the east, five-province Bloodcutter Folk in the west).
Yes, the odds of a match like this are very low, but obviously it can happen! ;)
