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Criteria | Rank | Score* | Raw Score |
Originality | #30 | 4.167 | 4.167 |
Presentation (graphics, audio) | #37 | 4.370 | 4.370 |
Fun | #67 | 3.667 | 3.667 |
Theme | #101 | 3.741 | 3.741 |
Ranked from 54 ratings. Score is adjusted from raw score by the median number of ratings per game in the jam.
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You can change the mode of the Dice to change your chances, and the main point being that you send out "Metals" (Tank-like things) with 2 modes that you can switch between; each having their own special abilities and stats.
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Wow, seriously one of the best games of the jam! The presentation was perfect (pretty much release-level), and the way the depth of the mechanics revealed itself as the game commenced was awesome. It was certainly complex, which made it gratifying to make it to the end.
One thing I'll note is that some of the balancing for the different weapon types could use some improvement; I ended my run with all "SHOT" metals, as its low-cost firing and special ability were incredibly useful against the hordes of monsters. Rebalancing may also give me a bit more incentive to switch between modes with my units.
Still, I had a ton of fun with this one, and was surprised with just how much time I spent playing it. I hope this one does well. Excellent work!
Yeah. SHOT was way too OP. I've changed it some in the current build I'm working on for a full release, as well as adding some incentives and reasons for switching. You can scroll down to my longest reply (Just under yours), and I go over a lot of the changes I am planning.
Thanks a ton for playing! :D
I had seen your game floating around and was excited to finally get around to playing it. Very cool concept. Plays like Into the Breach combined with tower defense. I find this game really interesting and I hope you don’t mind me spilling my thoughts (feel free to ignore, honestly!). I’ll try to avoid any comments that have been made already.
I discovered the KING glitch on accident, then started fresh and beat the game using only SHOTs, then played and beat again without using any SHOTs.
The whole idea of modes for metals is interesting, but I found myself almost never switching modes. I’d say a big reason is the 3-turn lock; imo staying in one mode and focusing on its playstyle is simply easier than the hassle of switching modes only to regret it a turn or two later.
Being able to explore/uncover the map was really neat. From a visual standpoint, I think there should be a clearer change in what a tile looks like before and after it’s been “uncovered.” Also, once you’ve sent a metal into the depths of one maze-like branch and defeated the hives there, it feels useless and just sits there (unless you feel like wasting a bunch of movement grit). I really liked that units like the ROOK can only push one unit into the darkness but can move back into known territory two spaces. Helps combat that issue a bit. Otherwise maybe being able to scrap a metal for resources could be useful?
Healing seems to have very little use since enemies don’t attack metals off the track (except for the flying guys). It makes me wonder why the ROOK is the only metal with self-healing, yet it comes with the most HP—I cannot imagine a scenario in which I’d need to use it.
I found the flying enemies to be very overpowered, at least compared to the metals’ abilities. Travels over barriers and heads straight for the base, moves multiple spaces, and damages metals in its path.
There’s some info that’s always shown that could probably be hidden. In my experience a small amount of the game is spent launching metals, so I don’t know if the UI for launching them needs to be on-screen for the entire game. I’m not sure why the launch cost for metals is shown on the upgrade page, considering it’s already been launched. On the topic of upgrades, I only found myself needing to upgrade damage. Any other metal upgrades (especially upgrades to special abilities) seemed expensive for little reward. Dice upgrades also seemed too expensive for the return on investment.
Again, I love the game mechanics and concept. The entire aesthetic is excellent. I am super envious of your choices for SFX and music (thank you for introducing me to Ruskerdax!). I bet you have a lot of interesting ideas up your sleeve and look forward to seeing your game develop.
The feedback is always useful, so no worries! But all of these things are actually being tackled. Though confirmation on the issues is helpful since it solidifies what I've been choosing to fix, and how to fix them.
KING was a bug, which has now been fixed in the full version I'm now working on.
SHOT was OP and just needs some nerfs/balancing.
I may separate the armors so each has its own, as well as other ideas I'm cooking to give more incentives to swap. I did consider just taking out the swapping altogether. But with the newer changes, as well as some stuff I'm going to test, and how the idea was to mix movement Modes with Attacking modes, I may keep it.
I need to add more details to split the undiscovered and discovered. Saw that when someone was playing, and they thought they uncovered a spot which happened to also have a Hive. lol I DO want people to miss a Hive while moving, but not because of being mistaken for a discovered tile. I want the experience to be, "I don't need to go back for that clearly undiscovered tile. It's one tile. What's the harm?" I am also adding a new mechanic to deal with the "Metal at the dead end". I am also going to MAYBE allow scrapping a Metal, but I might make it more as a way to free a slot than recover resources. But there can be strategies in gaining resources, so it might be a little amount.
HP was a side-addition due to how the design was building itself, but grew further.
The process was:
- You can move a Metal.
- Can Metals move onto the path?
- To cross the path, yes, especially since some only move 1 space.
- You can move a Metal onto the path.
- Should enemies damage a Metal if the Metal is on the path?
- Add HP so Metals can be damaged as an added risk.
- But HP doesn't feel significant enough.
- Add events that can damage the Metals so HP now plays as a new resource to keep an eye on.
The issue was more balancing the Events and the HP. The most destructive event (Scrap Storm) was actually nerfed just before the deadline because someone said it did too much damage. I ended up nerfing it too much. That'll change, and there'll be new special enemies that deal damage to Metals not on the path.
The flyers are probably the biggest threat. I even purposefully designed it to where you'd have to explore to see the other side of the wall to see them coming. But this is another balancing issue. Things like making them slower, weaker, less HP, etc to get them just right. As well as variants with better/weaker stats.
I just wanted to fit it all on one screen, so the Launch info was always there. But it's changing to a tab that you click to go between Metals and Launching, which gives me more room to add new mechanics in the menus.
Upgrades were kind of tricky, and they weren't as strong as I set out for them to be. Like fire is a joke, and though neat, is too underpowered. I am fixing that- as well as a lot of the chance stuff and all that. Although, the two main upgrades were damage and range. I am tweaking the upgrades though and making each upgrade fit their playstyle more, as someone wanted FROGs to be a viable strat, which has led to focusing each of their upgrades to cater to strategies- but not TOO much. I still want players to mix and match them.
Balancing the dice is probably one of the bigger things I didn't know how to do. I've learned a little more about how I'll change things up from watching people play and am changing some of the dice mechanics due to it. But yeah, a lot of balancing was needed, but I didn't have enough time to dedicate to it. But now I DO! :V
Rusterdax is amazing. I have so many of his songs downloaded and they work amazingly well for atmosphere. But if you wanna see more of my stuff, I have some unfinished things in my profile. I'd recommend "Knight of the Living Dead", "Medieval Dead" (Which is a full demo), and "Tim's Paradice". Tim's Paradice is where I discovered my animation trick for dice, though all my old stuff could really go for some touching up with my current dev skeelz.
But all in all, the feedback is useful! Thanks a ton for the kind words and thanks for playing Metal Mode! :D
Impressive submission! Core mechanics are very fleshed out and everything is so deep it feels like something thats been maturing and in development for way longer than just two weeks. Perhaps a bit too much to take in in the beginning, but I learnt everything eventually just by playing. As others have said previously the tutorial could be better, but the mechanics definitely seem a lot more understandable in hindsight, so the core game itself is pretty much solid.
In a sense, I suppose it was. I used past experiences from some of my other games and I've been wanting to make a good turn-based TD game for a while. I sort of made one before, but it had very different mechanics and I didn't like how it turned out. This was just another experiment that seems to have been a success!
And yeah, it's a "Once you get it, you get it" sort of thing. Which seems to be a theme with every strategy or tactic game I make. lol
Thanks for playing though! :D
took world’s longest time to do so, but i finally figured out the game! yay! i think my main issue with learning it was that i didn’t realize i could attack the bugs themselves - i thought i was only able to attack the hives. i was under the impression the little yellow guys were unstoppable once they were spawned! ^^” once i learned that, it really opened up the game for me. it was a lot of fun! making EVERY SINGLE THING in the game use the same four resources is a really clever idea, it forces you to think super hard about how you use them, and i love that! i do wish that there was more of an incentive to use units other than the basic SHOT, but i’m really happy to see that you’ll be working on it more. i’m so excited to play this with even more of a planned-out strategy!!! looking forward to it!
Hmm... An invincible unit. I could make that an enemy, or at least, one that goes invincible for a short time.
And yeah. SHOT was way too broken and was the best unit. That one is definitely going to be nerfed, and the others will be buffed.
Thanks for playing! :D
A very well polished and nice looking game. The gameplay loop was also satisfying. Only difficult part is getting the hang of it initially.
Yeah. The onboarding REALLY needs some work.
But now that I plan on making a full version, I'll be able to have more time to plan it out and make it! Woo! :V
The tutorial you made was by far from bad, it was good even! It's just that your game really does have a lot going on in it for a game-jam game. Good luck.
I got my ass kicked so much, and I loved every second of it.
Hell yeah! :V
Such a creative idea with a lot of potential, I'd love to see a full version of this!
I plan on it, so be on the lookout! :V
Thanks a ton for playing and thanks for the encouragement!
I can see myself playing a lot more of this one. Big fan of Into the Breach, the additional upgrades and dice elements work really well. Can be pretty tough though. Some small bugs like the King ruining my energy stat every time it attacks. Also if there's any indicator of how many hits the base can take, I couldn't find it.
I forgot to put the Core HP indicator, though a part of me kind of wants to keep it like that. lol
I'll probably change it though.
And yeah, the KING is a known bug. I'll have to fix it. Until then, just call it KING mode and see if you can beat it with just a KING. :P
Thanks for playing!
Oh man this is so complex my brain is actually brain not :"D Reminds me a lot of Advance Wars/Wargroove.
I'm actually enjoying it though! In the beginning it took me a bit to understand the mechanics properly, but once I got the gist it's pretty easy to go. The UI is really tidy and I love the sound effects. The dice is giving me a lot of joy whenever I click on them.
This is very good and I might give it more play later. So far I think the only dice that's almost useless to upgrade is the one with lightning? I might have missed something, but everything else have other use other than for unit launch.
Big props to you for this making a game this complex under the jam, really.
Those two games had some influence on this game! As well as a bit of Into The Breach and Chess.
I'm big on UI myself, so I always try and make sure navigation and using the UI feels good.
I'm also big on sounds, so I took extra care to get the Dice right and get them to feel weight.
The lightning (ENERGY) wasn't explained all too well, and it used an input that wasn't intuitive. (Hold Right Click on a Metal)
Each Metal had an ability that used ENERGY, and helped mitigate some of the ATTACK GRIT.
Had a ton of fun working on it, and glad you enjoyed it!
Lordy I can't fathom how you got all this done in the time allotted. Feels super complex and satisfying and balanced. Really great music to fit the theme and interesting graphics with great contrast. Great job!
A mix of knowing the engine really well, using experience on old games, and pixel art.
The systems also compound on each other, which adds to the complexity.
It was a somewhat happy accident that it all worked well together when I was designing it.
Thanks a ton for playing!
That was pretty great,I would've just liked a bit more of threat towards the end
I like the art and the music+sounds fit really well
Didn't think upgrading dice was nearly as good as getting another 3 for the same price, but rolling feels so satisfying
also it can be a bit hard to tell if you missed a tile while exploring
Yeah. Them being so far away makes the threat less of an issue near the end. I'll have to figure out a solution for that one.
I'll probably do a little more with revealed tiles so they differ more from the black background.
Thanks for playing!
This game was very fun. First run I got wrecked but the second time I cleared it. The difficulty and complexity were perfect. Buying additional dice and upgrading your dice and metals was really fun and satisfying, especially upgrading and buying more income dice. All of the interactions and sounds were very meaty and satisfying - I particularly enjoyed rolling the dice. Great job!
I put a lot of time and focus on the sounds as they are one of the most important parts of a game in terms of "support polish"; to me at least. And with all this feedback I've gotten, which convinced me to make a full version, I'll try and make it even more perfecter. :V
Thank you for playing!
Managed to clear /win the game in my 3rd try. My strategy was focusing on getting as many dice rolls as possible for attacking and moving. Worked out in a battle of attrition lol. The gameplay is very fun once you figure out how to play. The balance between using resources for movement/attacking/launching new units is very interesting.
Really cool execution. Hope you can make this into a fully fledged game! Has a lot of potential! Great Job on the gameplay and the overall presentation!
I do indeed have plans to make a full version!
And I'm going to simplify some stuff while keeping the core idea intact- that's the hope at least.
Also, not many beat it without focusing the wrenches.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for playing!
You get a little too much information thrown at you which makes it hard to discern what's important and what isn't. The games seems incredibly complex, and insanely polished. Very impressed!
Yeah. Once you get it you get it, but until then, it's info overload.
The onboarding for this game was one of the toughest things given the time I had left to make the tutorial.
But! I'll be tackling all that with post-jam builds! :V
Thanks for playing!
For feedback, I don't have much to add that other people haven't already said, regarding the info/tutorial/start of the game. After learning though the game was quite fun! And of course the visuals/audio are immaculate. Seriously impressive amount of polish, just a bit of gameplay tweaking and I could see this in a store. Nice job on this game!
I'll definitely see if I can get this to Steam. Seeing so many people enjoy the game is great and a real morale booster!
Thanks for playing!
Like other mentioned, I really enjoyed the presentation, but I think the tutorial is a bit lacking. In a game with this level of complexity, you really need to focus on making sure your player will understand the systems involved, and how to properly apply them. Obviously in the setting of a game jam, its hard to have enough time to both make a full featured game, and properly explain to the players, but in the future I hope you'll continue with it and flesh it out more, because the visual and audio experience feel very good already. Great work!
Yeah. Agreed.
Tutorials are always a hassle when it comes to "complex systems" in any game and can take a good while to get it right, so making it good enough in such little time is a challenge in itself. Especially since I made the "tutorial" near the end because the rest of the time was spent on making the game.
It was actually worse than the current version, as the player could soft-lock themselves. But after seeing some people test it before the deadline, I was able to change it. But after seeing more people play it, I now have a better understanding in the approach for the tutorial.
Thanks for playing!
Honestly incredible presentation, one of the best in the roster for sure! I could see myself playing this for hours with a full release, and especially with a good story. With better conveyance of the mechanics (which really aren't that hard once you get the hang of them!) this game could really hook a lot of people in.
I would still be playing this if I didn't have other mode games to get to! Balancing was of course an issue, but even after pigeonholing myself into simple units, I was having a blast. We just need to usher in the Age of Frogs. >:)
In a full release, I'll add more variety in enemies, levels, and missions, so I'll try and get you to play for more than hours! :V
Definitely going to try and make FROG strat viable in the future build. lol
Thanks a ton for streaming it! Learned a lot!
(slams fork and knife on table in front of empty plate) full release full release
The presentation was really polished, the audio feedback on input, and the graphics were great. It took me some time to get it but the mechanics were fun too
Yeah. I need to work on the onboarding. Glad you stuck around to learn and enjoyed playing!
Amazing idea and presentation, everything is really satisfying. It took a while to learn but once I figured it out I wanted to keep playing. I came across a bug that one of my tanks was spending energy with its regular attack so my energy (the lighting bolt icon) was in the negatives.
Yeah. That's the KING. I'll have to fix him. But because of the bug, and seeing someone play the game with just the one, it helped me come up with a new KING mode. lol
Thanks for playing!
The presentation and sound effects were very very clean. I think the gameplay had a lot of features and was a bit overwhelming but the tutorial helped a lot with that. Great Jam! Post jam I agree with a lot of comments here that the game could use a bit of balancing, but balancing any strategy/turn based game in a few weeks is basically impossible.
I honestly thought it didn't have enough variety, so I have been surprised when people said it was a lot- which is great! And yeah, the balancing I'll definitely need to tackle.
As for overwhelming, yeah. But I think I figured out a way to simplify it while still keeping the general vibe and idea going, so that'll be fun.