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A topic by Azalyne Studios (Aly) created Jun 22, 2024 Views: 16,436 Replies: 338
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Stuck? Need advice from a more experienced delegate to vanquish a challenge or steal a heart? Here's the place to ask your fellows. <3

I got a bad ending, and it said that bad endings do not get as good bonus. Is there any bonus to a bad end? How do we see what bonuses we do get for  a good ending?

When you start a new game, you get a prompt asking if you want to activate NG+ boosts. The game then tells you what boosts you unlocked for each relevant epilogue/romance/origin.

I got a bad end due to the Revaire bug the first time and didn't see any bonuses from starting a new playthrough then, so can confirm bad ends don't seem to give bonuses!

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Does this version have the story mode?

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yup! Story mode is alive and well <3

How would you do political marriage Jarrod and romance Gisette? I managed to get them both to approach me before the matchmaker but I'm unsure how to do it. Thanks!

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I turned Jarrod down in a way that allowed us to still be friends, and then pursued the political marriage path when the option became available while continuing my romance with Gisette as normal. I then automatically got the option of talking to Gisette about marrying Jarrod on the political marriage path.

I did that but Gisette told me I am not cut out for marriage with her brother. Uncertain if that's about personality or skills - I tried upping my self defense and cunning as everything else was quite high, but to no avail. Maybe you need to be immoral/selfish?

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can confirm it's a personality thing - immoral only!

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Hmm I went in with high immoral bar and still haven't received the offer yet with friendship Jarrod and romance Gisette. Maybe i'm just missing something else then unfortunately

Do you remember when/how you got the option to talk to Gisette about marrying Jarrod? I friendzoned Jarrod in Week 3 and chose political marriage so I could secretly romance Gisette. But I ended up getting Gisette's normal romance ending (beauty bonus on NG+)

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I fixed this so it should be more obvious (during Jarrrod's pol marriage conversation) for 1.06 <3

What week is Jarrod's political marriage conversation? I'm still getting Gisette's ending. I've tried with both an ethical Revaire and immoral Corval MC. 

During the W3 matchmaker conversation, I asked about Jarrod until she said that political marriages are arranged at the end of the summit. But I never got the chance to follow up on that?  

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One of the free time options will be to look into political marriages. I don't remember what it's called exactly but I think it's the bottom choice. You need to select that a couple of times to be able to arrange a political marriage.

Do you know how many times exactly? Trying to get the legendary ending is very time consuming so I need to know if it'll be possible to have a political marriage and still get the legendary ending by giving up on some more LI invitations and events that are important but aren't as necessary as other invitations and events.

There are three political marriage "events" in total!

Also Cordelia's and Penelope's invitations in week five don't take up a time slot!

Thank you!

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I could use some tips on how to achieve the legendary outcomes for all countries at the end of the game. Spoilers below!

What I've managed to do:

- secure peace between all nations, and within Revaire (royals step down peacefully for the rebels)

- max approval with all nations

- host a perfect ball

- be quite persuasive (575) and take every chance I've seen to increase peace/influence people to work together

- have a decent amount of social capital to use to influence the nations towards peace during the negotiations (I've tried different distributions), while ignoring my own interests

- convinced Avalie to work with me towards peace and had Penelope go to Skalt

- decent or better respect and friendship with everyone except Jarrod

- resolved Weaver, historian and rebel secret chains


Can anyone point me in the direction of what I've forgotten to do?


Update: so I've confirmed you need to reform Jarrod to get the best possible ending for Revaire. I still haven't managed to get the legendary achievement to pop, though, so there's something else I'm missing.


Update 2: I think I haven't managed to get the best possible outcome for Arland/Jiyel. If anyone has tips for that one it would be greatly appreciated.


Update 3: success! I was messing something up in a conversation with one of the ambassadors.

Ohh sorry for asking but how did you get the Revaire royals to step down peacefully? Thanks!

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You have to have Rebel approval at at least 50 (halfway point of the bar), and possibly you need friendship with Gisette as well? Then you'll have to carefully navigate your way through two conversations to convince both parties to sort things out peacefully. Oh, and you need to have seen all the Rebel secrets.

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I just got the peaceful resolution for Revaire and I can confirm that you *don't* need to be friends with Gisette, like, at all. You just need to pick enough of the right arguments (and have the stats?) to convince her to work with you.

Was your peaceful resolution as rocky as mine? It didnt seem happy or good at all, and I'm not sure if I got the 'less good' peace ending, or tensions and unhappiness were bound to happen with peace.

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There are a bunch of variations of revaire peace endings. (like six or seven?) but it's definitely possible to have a totally smooth peace.

Not sure if a bug or just I got the worst Peaceful ending and that influences my options, but in the last-ditch effort to increase peace in Revaire, when I choose "Increase chances of Peace in Revaire" my only options are to increase conflict, is that a sign I only barely managed Peace?

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maybe you ran out of spendable influence? (I'll have to take a look at that one)

Definitely not that, I can "greatly influence" 2 options, but the one that encourages peace in general just increases conflict, for example, I have three options in that last choice for Revaire, Increase Peace (which only increases conflict ), Increase Allies who are for Peace, and Argue for better negotiations for Revaire.

By the way, I sorry for the nitpicks, this is a marvelous game that I love and have been looking forward for years. It is every bit as good as I ever imagined! Thank you for it!

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man, it turns out to be an embarrassing bug. Picking them correctly moves towards peace, but the wording is just wrong. Will fix in the 1.07, but in the meantime, remember they are the reverse of what they say. You are using conflict for peace!

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Also just got the Revaire peaceful resolution with romancing Gisette (was romancing Clarmont unlike he dumped me :/ ). I had high Gisette respect and low rivalry/romance/friendship. I'd uncovered all the rebel secrets and I think you also might need high enough respect/friendship from Sayra (which is made easier if you ace the trial).

Ohhh how do I raise rebel's approval? From the wiki, I only see from rescuing Penelope and Summit announcing Katya's legacy? Also for Sayra, would I have to invite her out? I've aced the trial and protected her before but it doesn't open her to me :\

Yeah, this is something I'm not sure about either. I've never gotten the bar to more than 50% before the conversation with Sayra about Revaire's future, and even that I've only managed on my playthroughs where Katiya's legacy is my announced goal, so it seems like I definitely need that bump. I don't know anything for sure, but maybe befriending Clarmont and having high approval with the servants helps? I know you don't have to invite Sayra to an event to get the peace outcome, because I haven't done that before. It might help, though?

Yeah, being nice to servants definitely helps. If you get the gifts from Mrs. White and Sayra and Ria, then that's a sign that you're on the right path. I didn't invite Sayra out either, so that's not required (though inviting her to the Onvu tournament certainly wouldn't hurt). I raised the rebels approval by like 1/4 of the bar in week six and part of that was pulling off a successful ball. The other big boost was my convo with Sayra, which happened automatically. Couldn't say why she opened up to me and not you :(

for mrs. white's gift, do you remember what you did to get it? Was it just rescuing Penelope and the Summit thing? I feel like i'm missing something else to miss the gift haha

I think it's just saving Penelope and the Summit (following Katya's , yeah. I bet that the servant scene before Clarmont's week 1 date also influences it. I was romancing Clarmont on this play through, so maybe that gave me more opportunities too? Antagonizing Gisette during the opening scenes helps too, but I think that may be more counterproductive if you want her to agree to peace...

Just wanted to say thanks for the tips! I managed to get it :)

Congrats!!

I was trying to get the peaceful ending while romancing Clarmont with the Arland princess background, and after multiple resets I managed to do it! You don't need to befriend Gisette, but it seems like having a semblance of respect from her helps. I managed to get full success during the play and played opposite of her as Serah, which greatly boosts all approval and earns a fair bit of respect. I had to consult the guide for the stat checks, so this is probably going to be a lot easier in story mode. Hope that helps! 

How can you even tell if you got the best outcome? I got Avalie's epilogue bonus so I assume I got the best outcome for Jiyel, but maybe it's not the same as best outcome for peace??

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There's an achievement in week six for all legendary outcomes and getting all legendary outcomes gets you a special bonus epilogue (two if you are romancing Jasper and getting his epilogue as well)

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pls pls pls how to romance Jasper? i've tried my beeest but still fail 
NEVERMIND I GOT HIM NOWW AAA SO HAPPY

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yay <3

Huh, do you think you need to pass all the checks with the ambassadors, then? Wow, I better get my self defense skills up.

Not necessarily all checks I think (although I did pass those), but I was picking one of the other options that gave influence with Arland rather than the peace one. So that was a bit dumb on my part. :P

How do I avoid the mysterious assassin who comes to kill me right before the ball I'm hosting? I'm friends with everyone except Jarrod, no faction even dislikes me, my personal matters are being worked on (Corval delegate romancing Hamin, collecting protective blackmail, finished that line as far as it can go). Did great at the trial and most everything else.....


 My persuasion/,manipulation related skills are off the charts (in some cases literally) and that skill doesn't work. I can scream a bit but he covers my mouth, my self defense sucks but I wouldn't be able to bring that skill up in time even replaying the week and ONLY doing that. What am I missing? What can I do :,(

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According to ye ol' Piratepad guide:

Assassination attempt

-Disarm (Requires 300 defensive instincts on challenge mod and 250 defensive instincts on story mode)

-Scream (Requires high friendship with Ana or being Avalie's ally. If you're Avalie's ally, Pen, Cordelia, and Ana can come too if your friendship is high enough)

-Seduce (Cannot succeed) [tragic doomed romance lol]

Info here: https://web.archive.org/web/20170316041605mp_/http://piratepad.net/eKim6ADYGk

Thank you!!  I definitely have a friendship with Ana but I guess it's not high enough :,(  as for Avalie's ally, I've gone to all of her events,  the last one being when she invited me to hang out in the last week and said she was unused to having friends, and we danced together. has high respect, friendship and rivalry. did I miss a special allyship scene D: 

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To become allies you need two conditions to open up the chance to convince her, then pass a persuasion check:

During her friend date on week 6, you will get an extra set of choices if you saw the secret acene in the garden that week, all the weavers scenes in previous weeks, and have enough respect+friendship:

- I will be satisfied...

- Truthfully,..... Friendship + | Respect ++

- I'm worried, Avalie (Ethical only)

-- I suppose... - Avalie will not become your ally

--I don't think that...

---Let the subject drop. - Avalie will not become your ally

---Attempt to convince her

Pass 455 > Persuasion- "...You are a manager of miracles, Charname."   - Avalie will become your ally

Fail < 455 Persuasion - Avalie will not become your ally

awesome, thank you so much :) 

the fact that you're super successful may even be the problem, apparently if you're not succeeding at everything the weeke 6 assassin doesn't even show up!

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Also- I remember on the old forums there was a guide for how to avoid potential breakups, some were harder than others. It's been awhile, but I remember that to avoid Clarmont's breakup scene we needed to have seen certain secret scenes while exploring that tell you about his backstory. Hamin's wasn't that difficult to avoid, currently struggling with Zahad's. Would love any tips people remember for avoiding the breakups in general, maybe important enough to get it's own topic? 

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For Zarad specifically (taken from the pirate pad)-

  • "Well I disagree! Vehemently!" (First choice doesn't seem to matter here either!)
  • "It wasn't your fault. Not what happened and not that you weren't able to stop it."
  • "You aren't saying the great Zarad can't deal with the unexpected are you?"
  • "I knew what I was getting into with you, Zarad. And I chose you anyway."
  • "Whatever you have done, I know you well enough to know you were doing it for the right reasons."
  • "Attempt to convince him that you aren't bothered by what he's done and are in fact happy to join him in the dark." (Immoral)
  • "Attempt to convince him that whatever he has done, he isn't the terrible person he thinks he is, and together you will find a better way." (Ethical)
  • Choices in order 324142 is the default, I think - worked with tomboy countess (low persuasion in comparison)
  • if you have 450 > persuasion it helps too Isn't it 400 to pass without choosing all the best options? It is for Clarmont and Emmett.
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Oh man thank you! I hit the wall with him and was screaming because my persuasion suuuuucked

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do you have a link to the pirate pad? the old forums are all down so I can't get the links from there, and the all rounder 7kpp blof on tumblr seems to have a lot of dead links as well :,)

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjMV_WC3uevdsybfZXdRU0Sj2dBhVUcLEu9axLx06n8/...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y_B9hy8pjgzc3DEJsU5JaxE5GmBoUY5mHOUc5SuwrBE/...

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14qc5uB3YFNeMBzP4-y4yod9SQ_SUaHzZxzJxpFq7UjI/...

Weeks 4, 5, and 6

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Do you know what the requirements to get any of the additional options are? I have pretty high persuasion. I only get the first set of dialogue with "Well I disagree! Vehemently!" but I just auto fail and it results in him breaking up with my Corval MC without any input from me.

You might not have gotten his romance high enough. Have you seen all his date scenes up until that point? Make sure to spend time with him. And make sure you give good answers during those dates to get the romance boosts. I know you auto-fail if you aren't close enough to your love interest.

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Yep! I went on all of his dates and choose the right responses. It might be that we weren’t close enough, maybe. I’ll restart and see what’s up. Thank you. - Came back to edit this, it was the romance that wasn't high enough.

I'm going over my achievement pages and there are two that I'm stumped on. From week 6, what's the achievement after "A Political Affair" and before the romance ones? And, what's the final achievement on the last page, after "Behind the Ball"? Is it the one for getting all the secrets, and if so, is it still bugged?

Sorry for another question, but how do I get Cordelia's special epilogue? I've gotten all her friendship scenes and max her out. Do I need to increase Hise's negotiations for her?

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I’ve gotten the epilogue for her multiple times, and have always achieved the best outcome for Hise and Corval. Here are some of the things I did that I think helped with that:

  • won the ship race in week 2 (gives a massive Hise approval boost)
  • took a lead acting role in week 5 (I believe this gives Corval approval if you succeed)
  • Told the Hise ambassador to negotiate with Corval for Henri’s relationship
  • Spoke up at every opportunity in the Hise and Corval negotiations
  • Suggested Hise and Corval form a joint navy
  • Reminded Hise and Corval that they weren’t always that different (needs the History stat to succeed IIRC)
  • Suggested that there are beneficial trade opportunities
  • Promoted peace between Hise and Corval (didn’t need to spend any social influence to do so)

Hopefully this will get you the best outcome for Hise and the Cordelia epilogue!

Oh interesting! I've never gotten the joint navy option for negotiations. Do you remember how you got that option? Would I need more warfare knowledge?

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I got it with 15 Warfare, so maybe, maybe not?

I got it thank you! :)

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How'd you end up getting it?? I have more than enough warfare, but the option isn't there.

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I decided to put links to all the guides/documents I've been using from across the internet in one place, in case any one else wants to use them (also because managing all these tabs is breaking my brain).

Old Week 1-3: https://pastebin.com/crpWr8NL
Random Guide: https://web.archive.org/web/20170316041605mp_/http://piratepad.net/eKim6ADYGk
Week 4 Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yjMV_WC3uevdsybfZXdRU0Sj2dBhVUcLEu9axLx06n8/...
Hosting Events Guide: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y-njdJ001WFKX1nf6q1vo57VOfQbKAZuc0-KsPmS...
Character Creation Guide: https://kisari.tumblr.com/post/106552124335/seven-kingdoms-origin-info-guide
Welcome Dinner Guide: https://azalynestudios.tumblr.com/post/108022404476/itsneverfaraway-seven-kingdo...Boat Race Guide: https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Boat_race
Trial Guide: https://leahazel.tumblr.com/post/162180039364/7kpp-guide-to-getting-the-perfect-...

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Great list, thanks for collecting everything in one place! Yeah, I got so many tabs open when playing this game, all the guides + stat calculator + wiki. Studying for the summit is real!

The piratepad guide is from the old forums, I believe, a lot of people worked hard on it. I hope eventually some of those people come back to play the game to see the fruits of their labor.

Could you share the link to the stat calculator please? I dont find it 

The stat calculator can be found here: https://www.mediafire.com/download/jqy9dgc3gd1dquu/7kpp+calculator.html

Here's the post by the creator of it: https://prismsession.tumblr.com/post/136959099366/7kpp-stat-calculator

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Fantastic additions! I'd like to add the build calculator and this guide that covers weeks 1-5!

You are a hero and an icon. I was so mad at myself for not saving the piratepad guides.

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Thank you, but I don't think I deserve the credit. That link was posted elsewhere on this forum, and I've just been using it a lot. The rest of them, though, I'll take credit for headhunting~ (teasing)

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romance woodly 

ALL ROUNDER 7KPP BLOG — THANK YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS SO MUCH FOR THAT HUGE... (tumblr.com)

Hi, I'm having trouble friendzoning Jarrod and am wondering if the RevaireMC is locked out of that option? I have done the following: 

W1 - on his date, select option that loyalty is earned; pleasant conversation to reinforce better behavior; in all frankness 

W2 - get blush scene

W3 - before matchmaker scene, select that I am aghast. But he tells me that's a stupid complaint when we all know the best choice.

I don't think I failed any persuasion checks because I chose character creation options that would give me 75 manipulation and always select options that give +5 insight.  

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you might be just falling short of the persuasion threshold, which is pretty high, i think it's 450 in challenge mode (manipulation and insight aren't the only persuasion stats, there's a bunch of other skills!)

Thank you! I assumed I had enough because I passed the previous persuasion checks, but you are right about Jarrod needing high persuasion

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I've never had difficulty getting Sayra's confession on week 6 before. I was on a widow build that was designed to unlock all secrets, so I had every secret from weeks 1-5. I remember that I didn't get Ria and Sayra's gift, and I thought perhaps that was because I had her declare the wrong ambition (making history instead of Katyia's legacy) since I'm convinced I did everything else right. Aced the trial in week 4. Friendship and respect were fairly high, but not high enough. 

However, my main widow has the same ambition, and she definitely unlocked Sayra's confession when I played her last (...about five years ago). She didn't invite her to an event, either. I'm pretty sure her second event was the midnight picnic, which Sayra never accepts. That's usually my default week 3 event for Corval and Revaire MCs. I guess I could try and load my oild saves to check, but I imagine that too much has changed between now and then.

Can anyone help me solve this mystery? 

I used the "Bring Peace to Revaire" guide and it worked on an Ethical Widow, see link below.
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/17P7Q0qq6xIPYoGJYAAzh1RH6SLvRHKFvjd7jSAfGxXU/...)

Interestingly enough, I just did a second run-through (Jiyel) while following it more loosely, and I managed to get Revaire's good peace ending after forgetting to invite Sayra to Onvu tournament, so I don't think it's as necessary as boosting her friendship. Also, I chose the Katyia's legacy ambition for both characters, although my widow was lying and moreso interested in alliances.

I think it has to do with the ambition for sure. I tried to go for a peaceful end for Revaire while romancing Clarmont as a Arland princess and had to reset multiple times because I couldn't get Sarya to confess to me either, which ended up with Clarmont dying and my poor princess widowed before marriage (and also a bad end). I ended up resetting multiple times trying different things, and Sara's respect and friendship seems to be tied to rebel approval. I ended up having to redo my character build to make sure I had at least 250 persuasion to get Katyia's legacy as a choice by the time the speech comes around. I noticed that once I did, I received Mrs. White's gift during week 3, which I didn't despite having the rebel approval bar at 3.5 before restarting. I think you also need to find all rebel secrets and find out who the true murder is too during the trial and complete a successful complete defense. 

Incidentally, I managed to get perfect completion of the play and noticed that it greatly boosted approval all around in general. It is definitely not easy (I had to do a lot of planning to make sure I had the minimum stats based on some guides), but if you play around with your stats to make sure you have at least 250 persuasion, it should be a lot easier. I chose to play a lead role in the play and got roped into playing Serah. When I tried to pick another role, Jaslen forced me into Serah's anyways. I don't know if things will be different if you chose to work backstage. Hope all of these observations help you get Sarya to open up to you!

How do you wipe your progress and start fresh?

I want to re-unlock all the achievements now that alpha's out (and re-read all the text before using the skip), but I can't work out how. I've gone into the game files and deleted everything in the 'Saves' folder - no luck. I feel like I'm missing something obvious - anyone know how to do this?

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I had the same issue, here's what worked for me (in addition to deleting the save files like you did):

1. Press Window Key + R to get the Run dialogue box

2. Type %appdata% and hit OK

3. In the window that opened, go to the folder Renpy

4. Inside Renpy, find the folder Seven Kingdoms The Princess Problem and delete all the files inside it


That finally let me start totally fresh. Hope it works for you!

This worked to clear my saves! No luck on resetting the achievements or the text 'seen' flag, but I'll take it. Thank you!

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I've added an experimental choice during the game mode selection to hopefully let you do this in 1.06 *crosses fingers*

What skill checks do I need to pass to survive the horse ride on my own? I keep getting the message "You know enough self-defense, you should be able to do something to survive" and dying two messages later.

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There's a series of stats checks, you don't have to pass them all, but you have to pass enough of them.

Poise + Courage (smaller value checks) Quick thinking and Defensive instincts (bigger value checks)

The you know enough line only gives you 10 out of the 50 points you need to save yourself (that's the middle pass line - higher defensive instincts would net you + 25)

I'm not sure why I can't get Avalie in an alliance. The guide says that you need to discover the weaver chain of secrets and the garden scene which I'm sure I did. Is there a specific piece of dialogue with the final secret in the forbidden wing that signifies you completed it? The two previous secret scenes is the week 1 garden and week 3 I'm sure I got. The guide says you first pick the option that mentions her backstory, then there should be another option the next set of choices but I just see gossip, fashion, and onvu. 

i think you need to have 50 or more secrets too, then in the forbidden wing final secret, there should be an achievement about weaver

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Yeah, you are probably missing the final weaver scene, in week 6. From the piratepad guide:

-Forbidden Wing requires seen the Weaver scenes in Week 1 and 3 + Secrets has to be 50 and above | Needs at least 275 Interpersonal Insight

Yep, that was it. Had 275 Interpersonal Insight but investigating the noise gave me -5 for +10 courage and that would always put me just under the amount required lol.

Is there any dedicated guide to get all legendary ending for all nations ? I'm trying to get Avalie's ending and I got her to be my ally so I assume I haven't unlocked Jiyel best possible ending yet.

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I haven't seen any guides yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if some come out soon <3

tips for Legendary Jiyel:

-make sure Jiyel and Arland both know peace is in their interest

-make sure the agree to open borders and cultural exhange

-Bring them together to study history

And then make sure you have been convincing enough /or used enough influence that they work together happily and peacefully

Thank you so much ! On week 7, I chose to ask Lyon for his ideas, joint history library, and chefs training in different nations. Are they the 'correct' choices or is it more probable that I missed something along the playthrough ?

Also, thank you so much Aly for your hard work ! I just finished two backgrounds playthrough and the game is marvelous.

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Oh how did you ask Lyon for his ideas? Do you need to have a high friendship with him?

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Probably so ! On one playthrough I remained good friend with him and another I romanced him !

Those options are OK for legendary peace! Did you push the ambassadors toward peace as well when you met them? You could also try to spend more social capital on Arland and Jiyel peace during the negotiations.

I think I did both of them, and did greatly increase the chance for peace for Arland and Jiyel too🥲

And did you get the option to speak up as the ambassadors were talking during the negotiation?

Yeah, I believe I gave the Jiyel ambassador all (un)due credit wwwwww.

An update, I finally got Jiyel legendary with some of the NG+ bonus, and that Avalie epilogue was so so so worth it. I love her so much. 

I heard there was a 3p ending with Gisette and Jarrod, and I'm not sure how to get it. Can anyone offer me any tips or a guide on how to do so?

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Romance Gisette while following the political marriage path, on week six go for a political marriage with Jarrod, your MC should go to Gisette and ask for help. You'll have to play an immoral character.

Okay, this is embarrassing, how do you get Sayra to agree to try for peace? I've been banging my head against that wall for awhile now.

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If you mean during week 7 before Revaire negotiation, I believe you can't be too cynical, but you also can't have your head in the air or too naïve. Choose the realistic option like forging peace via negotiation and compromise. (My mc was noble and ethical so this could varied🤔)

Someone just posted a link to a guide to how to bring peace to Revaire: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17P7Q0qq6xIPYoGJYAAzh1RH6SLvRHKFvjd7jSAfGxXU/edit

I managed to stumble upon it after banging my head against the wall before the guide, but I think it has to do with persuasion as well? I didn't keep track of the choices I picked, but I think I picked the same choices more than once and I noticed that the option for peace showed up only once I had a high enough persuasion. I can't confirm if that is really true though since by that point I was so relieved that I didn't want to go back and reload to see the difference in stats 😂

Just did another run with a different build (I managed to bring peace as an Arland princess while romancing Clarmont) as a Jiyel scholar and I can definitely confirm that there's some hidden stat needed in order to get the option to aim for peace to pop up. I tried messing around with the choices for when you talk with Sarya on the guide I posted the link to and the option for peace didn't pop up. I'm guessing it has to do with persuasion or manipulation, or maybe people? I would need to look back on my saves and compare my stats.

Does anyone have any stats advice for the various secrets chains?

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This wiki has stat check information for the secrets (https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Secrets).

There's also this guide (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jXpoXz29_ew9lGkNmYL7C9QNVZfgaebL/edit?gi...).

Great, thank you!

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Also, does anyone have any advice about how to keep Ana from dumping you? Or, more generally, guides to avoid being dumped on all routes?

High enough romance.

You either have high enough romance that she won't even dare to try break up or your romance is kinda up there where you have to convince her to not break up and she comes back apologising ( for that just go on dates with your intended starting on week 4) 

Can someone help me with Sayra?

I played a route with Clarmont and had no problem unlocking her confession. 

I'm having another go, and she didn't open up. I invited them for breakfast, choose Katya's legacy, got her gift, defended her, got all the rebel secrets, aced the trial.... I don't what I'm missing? I'm at half way point with rebels aprobal, and maximun with commoners.

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from another reply I made:

To get the Sayra scene (in week six) that gives you the option to side with the Rebels, or try for peace you need:
first- have discovered the existence of the rebels (following the rebel secret chain)
second, pass an insight 85 check
third- have Sayra's rival less than 10, friendship more than 30 and respect more than 40
Sayra's friendship and respect are boosted by  choosing katyia's legacy, being nice to the servants (introducing yourself, comforting ria, sticking up for sayra when the delegate is bugging her, ) inviting her the onvu tournament,  or the girls night, saving Imogen at the trial (this is a big one, it gives a 20/20 boost for the best performance and a 10/10 for saving her) 

Inviting her to an event worked, seems I was missing that. Thanks!

How to avoid Zarad breaking up with you

could someone please tell me how do I unlock the identify of the secret assassin? Jasper told me he wasn’t able to get more information on whose behind the assassination attempts onMCs 

The one from the horse ride? For that you have to have seen the scene in the forbidden wink in that week but before the ride happens. I think you need a decently high quick wit stat for it

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I'm referring to the assassin who tries to kill us in Week 5 and Week 6 right before the ball. (I know who is behind the horse right, but thank you anyway) 

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It's impossible to find out the identity of that assassin (right now) I think Aly mentioned that we'll be able to find out when playing the "Player of The Grand Game" secret background once it comes out.

Thank you so much! Looking forward playing that new background ^^

Is it possible to romance Woodley? I remember I could to some capacity but it's been too long so maybe I'm mistaken or don't know how to get there. Does someone know if we can and how to do it? 

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Yeah, you can!

Here's the guide: https://7kpp.tumblr.com/post/122060069575/thank-you-and-your-friends-so-much-for-that-huge

I was dumped by Clarmont ;_; I assume I need to see all the Rebel secrets to progress the romance? I've done it in a previous demo playthrough years ago, but I can't quite remember what's needed - what rooms I'm supposed to explore when. Can someone refresh my memory please?


So happy you finished this Aly, I've loved this game for many years. Thank you!


...In the meantime I'm venturing into week 7, forever alone lol. 

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You don't need to complete the rebel chain to marry him at the end. To avoid getting dump for any guy is to have high enough romance with them so that if they try to break up you have all the right answers to avoid a (permanent breakup) where instead the romantic option needs to think and comes begging back.

 To increase romance you either have to pick the dialogues with the highest amount of romance or go on more dates with your intended ( I noticed two dates are enough ) 
fyi: if your romance is very high, the break-up (attempt) won't even happen. That was the case with me in my second walkthrough with Clarmont.

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Thank you! Romance was fairly high, but maybe not high enough? And I went on three dates. I think friendship was higher. I'll try to choose more romantic answers henceforth. 

Is it possible to make proper peace in Revarie without arranging a certain wedding?

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Peace as in no rebellion? 

I was able to unlock two "peaceful" ending for Revaire.

- Quick rebellion where the rebels one and Sayra becomes queen (she has to confide in you her true identity and you have to campaign in favour for rebellion ) 
- The second option I got was the new Revaire royal family stepping down ( high enough friendship with Gisette) but in that game Sayra told me her identity too 

Yes, but you need to pick specific dialogue options to convince all parties and presumably have very high persuasion for that to work. I think you also need to reform Jarrod on his friendship path?

How do I see the amount of scores/ points I have in the cumulative skills? Everyone mentions that you need specific amount in persuasion, however, I don't know how one estimates the amount they have? How can I calculate mine?

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https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Cumulative_Skills this should hopefully give you some idea.

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There's also this: https://azalynestudios.tumblr.com/post/137506645286/7kpp-stat-calculator

Does anyone know how to romance Jasper ? I'm having trouble triggering his route...

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Here's some pointers:

- go to your room every week to see his event

- invite him to one of your events (he won't come, but it boosts romance I believe)

- finish the historian secret chain and see the last one before the auto-triggered conversation with Jasper in week 4, then pick dialogue choices telling him to put down his burdens and assuring him you'll save the summit

That should help you get on his route. For the best outcome you have to have legendary endings for all countries. I think a perfect acquittal for Imogen also helps, in boosting relationship if nothing else, but I'm not sure about that.

I romanced and married Jasper, but the epilogue said he never fully opened up to me and our marriage was strained. Does getting the legendary ending for all nations fix that?

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Yes, you get a happier ending if you do that.

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(accidentally posted this in Bugs first, my apologies! XD)

I'm hitting a wall. I cannot make Revaire legendary happy, and I don't know why. I successfully increase peace at every turn, at parties, with the negotiations, with the ambassadors. I get Sarya's confession, and very good friends with Gisette, and can stop Jarrod in the hallway and encourage him to a peaceful mindset.

Sarya marrying Jarrod just makes Revaire miserable, getting every possible ally makes Revaire miserable during a rebellion, what else is there to do?

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Hi! I think you may be choosing the wrong option with Gissette? Because all the rest sounds exactly as what I got.

I got the legendary ending by choosing "peaceful but fair" (second option) and I got the marriage one when I took the first option (something that implied sharing power).

Hope that helps!

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It did, thank you! I never considered that the conversation options led to different peace paths! 

This game is so good!

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Is there like a guide up?

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There’s several guides posted about. Search through this forum. 

Please, can someone tell me how I can improve my MC's leadership?

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Aside from character creation, the occasional boosts you get from certain choices/relationships you can raise leadership in your free time by exploring the kitchens <3

Thank you very much!

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Here's a couple other ways: 

1. Clarmont's week 1 date will give you +10 leadership as long as you don't mess it up

2. In Penelope's week 2 friendship date, if you're friends with both her and Lisle, then Lisle will pop in for a visit. You'll get +5 charm from Pen and +5 leadership from Lisle.

3. In week 2, visit the garden during your free time. If you have high enough romance with Clarmont, he'll be there. You two will take a walk through the gardens and you'll get +5 leadership.

thanks a lot!

I've seen in the guide that we could get presnts from characters in week 6 for skill boost but it's not triggering for me - neither in conversations right before ball nor during adding extra touches in preparation. What should I do to trigger them? 

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I saw that too. It might be for your romance option. 

Right, I see it now. For some reason I assumed I will get presents from everyone I get along with ^^'

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I got a gift from Zarad (my last playthrough's romance option.) Romance was maxed out, I'm not sure if anything else needed to be triggered. (I kissed him when I had the option to, but I don't even remember if that scene was before the ball or after it.) Sorry, don't know if that helps. 


I'm playing a runthrough with Lyon right now, approaching week 6 soon. I'll try to pay attention this time and report back.

Yes, I remember receiving gift options from my romance option too. On the guide, it doesn’t say romance options so it can be a bit confusing because it could mean we just get gifts like in Week 3. 

Sorry, one more question: I know that to improve interpersonal insight we need to visit the Guest Hall, but how do we improve the basic insight ?

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Insight can only be raised by picking the best/most insightful option in certain conversations. It is the most tricksy stat. <3

Thank you very much for the help.
Is it the same with grace? Can it be raised only by picking the right options in conversations?

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It can be raised several ways: picking specific dialogue options, receiving gifts from others, and under your Free time to-do list - select Ask someone for skill advice - and then select Practice dancing with Jasper. 

Most other skills can be raised through exploring the castle, asking someone for skill advice, or self improvement. 

Thank you a lot!)

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No problem. Have fun!

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"Insight" kind of translates to "meta knowledge about the game." It's basically a measure of whether or not you've played the game before and how well you understand the characters. During the welcome feast at the beginning of the game, you have the opportunity to gain a total of 70 insight. To do that, you need to show up early so you have time to talk to as many characters as possible. 

There are guides out there explaining how to get the max amount of insight on day 1, but it's possible to figure it out yourself. Each character you talk to asks multiple questions. They typically ask you 1 or 2 questions that require a skill check and 1 or 2 questions that do not. For example: when you meet Cordelia, the first question is just how to greet her. The greeting is based on skill checks; you can greet her politely if you have enough etiquette, curiously if you have enough intelligence, etc. Her second question is another skill check. Her last question is not a skill check. This is the question that grants insight. She politely asks you how your journey was. The correct answer is the most polite one. It makes her happy and grants +5 insight. All the conversations during the welcome feast share the same basic format. The questions that do not require a skill check, the ones that are just about choosing what will make that character happy, those are the ones that grant insight. 

The welcome feast will grant you the most insight, but there are other opportunities to raise insight scattered throughout the game. They typically come up during group events. For example, during the introduction speeches at the end of week 1, you can get +5 insight from answering Woodly's question. And then during the horse ride, you can get +5 insight from answering Yvette's question.

Hi, I'm trying to romance Gisette and to soften her. I know there should be an option in week 5 ("capable of change") but I can't manage to unlock it. 

I already chose "care for others" in week 4 and I solved the murder in a perfect way. What am I doing wrong?

I think you have to ask her "What made you this way" to get that option (I only just heard about the option to soften her, so I'll have to play it to check)

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hi !! a bit embarrassing but I can't seem to get all the legendary endings for each country. I can always get Revaire, and I managed to get Corval/Hise to legendary once, but the other won't budge from being neutral to good for the rest. During the first meeting with the representatives I always push them to diplomacy, I have high friendship/respect with all the delegates, and I always succeed in 3 good suggestions for peace during the negotiations during week 7. I'm not sure what I'm missing?? Please help ;;

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What are the requirements for Ana's epilogue? I know I maxed out the romance (because I got the unbreakable bond achievement), I got a good ending for Wellin and Skalt with quite a bit of influence on the Skalt side, but can't think of any other boxes to check that would be relevant to Ana? Any particular skills or something? (my character has sky-high defensive skills so I don't think it could be that). Or does she need some legendary outcomes to trigger?

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Are you on the latest build? The epilogue was bugged for a while but should be fixed now.

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I was on 1.06 when it happened, recently moved to 1.08 - do you know when that bug was fixed, by any chance? Also, I'm guessing old saves won't trigger the endings after I've downloaded a new version, right? Thank you for your reply btw :D

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There's a glitch that slipped through the net on the Ana-warrior path - should be fixed for 1.09 thanks <3

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Thank you so much <3 You're so fast at bug-squashing :O

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What new game plus boosts do you get from different characters?

Also, I was able to marry Sayra and Jarrod, but I was wondering if there's a way to oust Jarrod's family completely.

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It's possible to convince Gisette that stepping down and abdicate is better for her and her family.

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I'm not sure if anyone else has posted it, but I have all the approved romance bonuses and some of the background ones that you get during your 2nd playthrough. What I see  so far are:

  • Widow: Cunning +10
  • Princess: Etiquette +10
  • Court Lady: Politics +10
  • Pirate: Courage +10
  • Scholar: Academic +10
  • Avalie: Manipulation, Intelligence +5 (Seriously, the ally ending is my favorite content of the whole game. Ally with her and be friends with Ana, Penelope, and Cordelia for an amazingly awesome scene week 6)
  • Penelope: Charm, People +5
  • Cordelia: Etiquette, Grace +5
  • Ana: Grace +10
  • Emmett: Eloquence +10
  • Zarad: Charisma +10
  • Lisle: History +10
  • Clarmont: People +10
  • Lyon: Intelligence +10
  • Hamin: Leadership +10
  • Gisette: Beauty +10
  • Jasper: Insight +10

Jasper gives an Insight boost if you have good endings for every nation. 

Oh thank you. I was finally able to get the best Jasper ending.

No problem!

Does anyone have any tips on how to get Penelope to be more confident? I can get max friendship and respect with her but i still can’t get her to accept going to Skalt.

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I've always chosen the 'she is more than she thinks and will find another way to help her family' options when talking to her in her friendship events, and have always had her on my (winning) team in the ship race (Hamin + Cordelia + Penelope + Lyon or Avalie), and have always been able to get her to go to Skalt in the end!

Thanks for responding! I always pick that dialogue option too but i haven’t done the ship race thing. I’ll try that next.

I think you might need to boost her confidence during the play too? I had a Sheltered Princess playthrough where she played the character Penelope usually does, and Penelope was too scared to go to Skalt. But it could have been because my persuasion or some other skill wasn't high enough to convince her.

Did you get the conversation with her before the Wellin/Skalt negotiations?

I somehow always get a bad ending ??  I think im doing something wrong in  the last week   can someone give me tips please

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What’s happening in your ending exactly?

Hi all, does anyone know how to use the clean slate option? I have downloaded the clean slate option and played the direct app file from the folder but it still does not show getting the achievements again. I noted that it deleted the first few pages of saves though. I have also played from the latest 1.09 build but the achievements are still not getting re-triggered. 

I finally saw the clean slate version but I realised that I did not choose it because I wanted to keep the stat bonuses from the best endings. Is there a way to remove saves and achievements but keep the bonuses?

Developer

Unfortunately, nope. They are all the same persistent data.

Understand, still, thank you for giving us this option <3

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My Jiyel MC is (probably) not going to die from poison, because she has taken all the steps to stop it , but now she has no means to find out who's behind the poisoning. What is required for that?

She consulted with Cordelia about the poison, but then she got stuck :(

I think it’s a quick wit stat check? Try raising your intelligence or cunning a bit more and then try it again.

I managed to raise a bit of both and pass the check! Thanks :D

For me, I consulted with Zarad. it worked for me:)

(potential minor spoilers ahead about the final weeks/ negotiations)

I've heard talk of blackmailing different people, but how can that be done? I've found out a few secrets about people (e.g. Blain's), but I never seem to get the option to blackmail someone? When should that option present itself? I was thinking maybe you'd have a conversation with them during week 7 where you get that option, but this hasn't been the case - what am I missing?

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I’ve gotten blackmail options three times so far - one for Jaslen’s secret, one for Avalie’s, and one for Zarad’s (for Jaslen, I only needed to see one scene - for Zarad, I needed his confession to get the option.) For both options, it happened at the end of the day’s negotiations, where I was asked if I wanted to blackmail the character whose secret I knew. For Avalie, I think I only got the option when she wasn’t my ally.

Noted - I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

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If you find out the full truth about the horse incident, you have an option to blackmail with that info Gisette during her week 7 convo.

I'm missing something about allying with Avalie and I can't figure out what it is. I've seen both weaver scenes listed on the wiki, found an additional one in the forbidden wing in week six (that implied I was missing something but ??? what?), seen several secret scenes involving Avalie (that aren't listed in the weaver chain), and seen the garden scene with Cato and Falon. I've got high friendship, respect, and rivalry with her; I've used (to my knowledge) all the right dialogue options. Are there more weaver scenes? I have replayed this game so many times at this point just to ally with Avalie and I still haven't done it. Pls help lol

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The last Weaver scene has a pretty difficult interpersonal insight check (270 IIRC) that you need to pass in order to unlock the Weaver secret and ally with Avalie. You’ll also need high persuasion to convince her, but I don’t think it’s higher than 500 (which you’ll need anyways to convince the Jiyel ambassador for the legendary ending).

Thank you! My interpersonal insight was ten points too low. That hurts lol but at least now I know what the issue is.

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It's actually 275, and even MCs that specialize in people/politics knowledge would need to grind a bit to get there! 

Considering how busy you can get trying to get the secrets to the legendary endings, I definitely recommend getting the practice in earlier than week 6. I ended up 5 points short of it myself, and had to load up a save two weeks earlier because I didn't have enough free time slots, RIP.

How do we know if we'll get Avalie's week 6 date? I've done everything required but Jasper didn't mention her invitation like with Ana. Will she just pop up after you see the Forbidden Wing and Garden scenes?

During her week 2 date, did you get her extended dialogue ended with "It would be a pity if you weren't at your best tomorrow"? Because it means you're heading in the right direction :D If you did, but still didn't get the other date, then... hmm, inviting her to the boat race and hosted events might help.

Thanks so much! I also messed up by skipping Emmet's week 1 date and didn't have enough knowledge for the tea clue, so my trial was not perfect *face palm* Wish me luck!

So I finally got Avalie's date but did't get the dialogue option to make her an ally?? I only got to these options: I will be satisfied, Truthfully neither of us, I'm worried Avalie

I think the "I'm worried" is the dialogue line that leads to convincing her to be an ally, so you're on the right track!

Ok thanks! Now I wish I saved the game before that moment!

Also quick question, will making Avalie an ally allow Jiyel and Arland to give up their standing armies? I got all the legendary endings EXCEPT Jiyel and Arland sdjjsjgdjgg

Update: Found a really great guide for all the legendary endings and WOW I'm so happy :D

I can't seem to get Avalie friendship ending even though I got her as an ally, even played as a Jiyel and yet nothing. What am I doing wrong?

Did you get the legendary ending for Jiyel?

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I try. I got Lyon to involve, build  a library and encourage chefs and even use the last influences to encourage peace. And when arguing with Kato, i got "a very good summary of my ideas on the subject" so I should have all that is required.

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You have to select the correct choice with the Arlish ambassador in the welcome feast. I was also having the same issue with getting Avalie as my ally as I selected the option  "The final 2 weeks are more important than the previous 5". During the nego, you will have 2 choices to select during the ambassador showdown - if you only got to support and give (un)due credit to Cato during the week 7 nego, you will not get the legendary ending. 

OMG!!!! Thank you so much. That was the problem. Got it!!!

I'm trying the get the Hise MC's mother, the Blackthorn, released at the end of week 7 while still managing at least a perfunctory peace between as many countries as I can. 


I used a chunk of influence to try and push for my own ends at the end of the summit, do I need a higher persuasion so I can gather more influence? Anyone know how much?

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I’ve done a run where I didn’t push for my own ends at all during the summit, but still got her released (I think by getting the legendary ending for Hise and Corval and having high friendship with Zarad, but I’m not sure if those were the driving stats).

That's worth a shot, thank you!

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Granted I was romancing Zarad when I freed her,  but I managed to do so without chosing any of the "work towards my interest choices" or spending influence on Hise/Corval.

Feels like nation approval + making the right convo choices with the delegates during week six is king for getting what you want at the negotiations - if you have the near max approval levels that lets you volunteer three choices at each talk you should be able to get her free and sue for some sort of peace with everyone without even spending any influence .

I am never sure what the correct answer is when first talking to the Arland and Jyjel ambassadors at the welcoming feast, can someone give me a tip?

Can't rmb the specific answers, but there is a guide for the week 6 walkthrough, and there is a guide for the legendary endings - if you want to get the legendary endings, better to see the specific guide for the legendary endings. The week 6 walkthrough will help with only getting specific stats.

Okay this is a probably obvious but here goes: is the achievement for getting all the legendary outcomes  the Katyia's Legacy achievement?  Or is there actually a seperate achievement called Katyia's Legacy?

I feel like I’m seeing different answers to this so I was hoping someone could confirm this for sure. Is completing the Rebel path the only way to keep Clarmont from breaking up with you? I had been prioritizing the Historian chain but if that’s the only way to stay with Clarmont I’ll have to go back to the drawing board with crafting my MCs…

Getting all the rebel secrets (and I think reaching a certain rebel approval threshold) is the only way to stay on his route, yes!

I figured, thanks for confirming for me! I had planned all my MCs for each background in a way that they could successfully get with all the approved romances, befriend Penelope, Cordelia, and Avalie (though for Avalie I’ll be buddies with her but can’t ally with her since my builds can’t afford for me to spend free time to complete the Weaver scenes 😂), uncover the Historians, and successfully get through the week challenges. I’ll have to see if I’m somehow able to do both Historians and Rebels with my current builds for each background. I got the stats for both, the problem is if the loss of the free time slots will make things harder for me in the challenges if my stats aren’t enough….If not, like I said before, back to the drawing board for me!

Does rejecting a certain Wellin Duke WITHOUT the secret Jaslen scene have any negative consequences? I just wanna lead him on for his week 3 gift bonus ;P

Have never seen any negative consequences! You don't even have to reject him, leading him on the whole time and then just not choosing his route just makes him another neutral/friend, like Ria and Jasper.

Thanks! I already figured that out. Too bad my Jiyel lady won't get his gift tho because she has to host a free history lecture to save money XD

Gosh, yeah, the musicale problem xD

My defaults are usually Musical, Lecture for Jiyel, and Midnight Picnic. But I think I'm gonna try hosting other events just for funsies haha

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How to get Gisette and Jarrod 3P ending? I'm immoral and I got all the legendary endings but still he broke up with me.  He is resentful of me for making him lose power. So is it impossible to get that ending  in Katiya's legacy ending?

As far as I know you can only get the 3P ending by romancing Gisette and supporting the Revaire Royals (so not on the Katiya's legacy path)

You also need to be immoral, else Gisette will say you're not cut out for marrying her brother xD

hiii does anyone know how to get lyon to get involved in the peace talks discussion? I'm trying to unlock the legendary ending but even w/ getting avalie's ally + 500 persuasion stat + picking the right options for the ambassadors I can't seem to get the option to show up.  He's legit the last thing stopping me from getting all legendary. ; w ; 

I think it depends on what you say during the first library date, when you talk about history and making a difference. Picking the third option ("I think it is a rather specious argument") always works for me ^^

Has anyone gotten Jasper's epilogue? I can only seem to unlock his ending and nothing else. Not sure if this has anything to do with him still keeping secrets from me even with historian chain resolved :(

Think you need to get every single legendary outcome for the nation negotiations to get his epilogue.

Oh goodness, okay, thanks!

No problem - didn't get a chance to edit my post by Aly confirmed this was the case in one of the other threads (think it was the game spoilers one?) Anyway just follow the Katiya's legacy guide and you should be golden.

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<POTENTIAL SPOILERS?>

I just completed my first playthrough to completion. It said I saw Hamin at the end, smuggling someone aboard his ship as we left in a chest. They seemed mischievous. I then unlocked a character. Hamin didn't explain to me, which the narrative pointed out, but I am wondering how to know. Is it an origin I might be able to use, or a delegate/person I can see on vail isle now?

Pretty sure it's Leala, who will be one of the unlockable romances released with the final version of the game!

Oh, nice! Thank you so much! :D

I'm lteraryyyy cryinnggggggggggggggggg, I've spent 4 days (not joking) spending HOURS on this game, to get Avalie's route, idk if it's a glitch but my latest run I got Lyons friendship and the grand game quest line until week 6. When I clicked the forbidden wing IT SAID NOTHING LIKE WHATTTTTTTT. 

Likeeeee.... I'm dumb enough to believe the grand game quest line. BUT IT DOESN'T SHOW UP. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

IF anyone can give me stats to achieve Avalie's route/the grand game plzzz tell me. 

REWARD

+999999 my never-ending gratefulness

Did you get the scene where MC finds something in the Forbidden Wing? If not, you’re either missing part of the Weaver chain or you don’t have high enough secret stat. If your MC does find something in the forbidden wing but she doesn’t think much of it, you need more interpersonal insight.

You also need to get the garden scene in Week 6 before Avalie’s date to get the option to ask her about the Weavers.

wait so is the weavers chain basically Woodly and Avalie talking week 1, Woodly and Jaslen flirting week 3. That's it. Because I did that, Brought peace to Jijyle and Arland, and discovered the grand game quest.... But stillllllll Avalie's ending is locked.

if you want her epilogue you have to achieve the legendary ending for jiyel as well as doing all the other things you mentioned

yeah I found out that at the end I needed to get her to become my ally, and now I got her's

I'm finding myself stuck here as well, mostly with getting the legendary ending for Jiyel (I blame the delegate)

there's a week 6 guide in the help and guides thread

I just got dumped by Clarmont and I don't know what I did wrong!

I have a few of the guides and swear I did everything right; are there other stats that I'm not considering like ambition or things maybe I'm lacking like leadership? I thought I was on the right track, please help!

Hi! I romanced Clarmont in my last run (took a couple runs). If I remember correctly, what I had to do was complete the Rebel secret/route, be an ethically moral MC, peace in Revaire AND use the PiratePad Week 5 Guide dialogue under the Angst Guide (Guide to not getting dumped). I believe you cannot be a Revaire widow. Note: I am not sure what the exact requirements are but this is what I'd done.

Amongst other things... Those were what I really had to focus on. Hope this helps!

The main thing with Clarmont is you gotta complete the Rebel secret chain and have more than 50% Rebel approval. And then in the conversation where he’s trying to dump you make sure to pick the right answers otherwise even if you got the scenes and approval you’ll still get dumped. Other than that, as far as I know, you should be good to stay with Clarmont!

I figured it out... Embarrassingly enough, I needed higher romance so I took him on a date and was successful!

does anyone know how to get Jasper's true end

never mind got it

I never noticed before, as I usually either fail to invite Woodly or have high Eloquence, but I just got +5 Eloquence from managing to invite Woodly to the Musicale! This isn't in any of the guides I've seen!
I had 35, which meant I failed the Eloquence test just earlier. The line sounded like perhaps you only get that if your stat was somewhat low. I wonder if the other chaperones have similar effects...

https://7kpp.fandom.com/wiki/Musicale?so=search

the Fanon wiki has it, and personally I found it really really useful. 

Yeah, and then afterwards I noticed that it was indeed noted in at least one version of The Big Spreadsheet Guide, just so discreetly I'd never noticed it 😅 Looks like Jaslen also brings Politics bonuses, and she and Yvette also bring bonus approval for their respective allegiances!

[eyes Falon] looks like not only does the general only deign come to 1 single event, but he just gives a Jiyel boost and that's it. wow

Hi, I read on the Wikia that having 50 Poise can also pass Jarrod's date, is that true? Asking for my Shelteres Princess mc 

I personally have never passed with 50 poise - it's always been 50 courage or 75 manipulation

Ah, ok thanks! That part should be edited then, to avoid future confusionXD

Thank you to Aly and all contributors to this thread. With y'alls help, I finished the game with 4/7 character backgrounds, 4 different love interest, the heartwarming trio friendship scene (Avalie queen!!) AND finally a legendary run ;) (all 7+ hours per run) With that, I am still excited to continue playing. 

Are the 'secret' unlockable backgrounds available to play in the EA? If so, what do I need to do. They show up in the More than You Appear screen but I can't play them when I click. Also,  I know there's an NG+ but from some of you, it sounds like this is already available with the EA. Is this true?

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NG+ bonuses are available (listed in the most recent guide posted in the guides thread), NG+ origins and romances are still being written :)

AHHH Thank you! That makes a lot sense. Getting a taste of the NG+ with the starting stat bonuses are added positive reinforcements to keep playing lol I'm obsessed.

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I was trying to get a good ending while romancing Clarmont as the Countess

Can you do it without bringing peace to Revaire?

He would dump me if I tried to participate in rebel activities. I had to choose support for him to continue
I had very low manipulation and cunning the entire time. Charisma wasn't great either.
I tried getting in with Sayra. I got her and Ria's gift but not Mrs. White's. Never found out Sayra's secret.
I did solve the murders though.

to romance clarmont successfully you need to either bring peace to revaire or side with the rebels

you should be able to choose either option at the end of week five as long as you pick all the right answers during your conversation (see guide)

if you don't have high enough persuasion to choose katiya's legacy as your ambition during the self-introductions then you can gain rebel approval by telling estelle that imogen is innocent at dinner

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Oh! Do I need to have Katyia's legacy as a public ambition in order to side with the rebels?
I had it as a private ambition but had a different public one.
I'm trying to figure out what stat I'm missing when I was able to support the rebels but didn't have enough of something to participate. I thought my persuasion might have been too low? Could that be the only thing stopping me?

 I made it to the end with his proposal but Clarmont died in the war.

you have to hit both a certain threshold of rebel approval (like half the bar?) and a certain level of sayra friendship for sayra to reveal her secret, which you definitely need in order to arrange peace and most likely need to side with the rebels. having katiya's legacy as your public ambition is the biggest, easiest early-game boost to rebel approval - i think you might need it to get the rebel gift in week 3

I don't think I've ever gotten the rebel gift in any playthrough, even in the first 3 week demo. Maybe once  when the demo was new, but not in the last couple years. How do I increase the rebel approval that much that early?

and according to the most recent guide posted in guides, you need a minimum of 250 persuasion to have katiya's legacy as a public ambition which I didn't have. Having almost no manipulation and low charisma are probably hurting me early on, since they're part of persuasion.

I'm attempting another go with my Countess build. without the rebel gift and without the public katiya ambition.
I already ended up with perfect acquittal, which I didn't get the first time with the Countess.

Do you treat Sayra, Ria and the staff nicely? E.g. be friendly with them when you introduce yourself (part of character creation), invite them to eat breakfast with you, invite them to events, comfort Ria on the day of the horse riding accident? Did you also sweep in to assist Sayra against the drunk delegate? 


Can't think of anything else which could affect the rebel faction - the actions above would help with Sayra's approval/friendship which is also linked to the rebel faction. I have always received the gift from Mrs. White/Ria +Sayra

it might also depend on things like your success at the self-introductions (i think passing perfectly gives you a bigger boost than just passing?) and having enough insight (at least 60) to choose the best option assisting sayra ("I don't doubt that Sayra can handle herself, but...")

there's a guide that covers the entirety of the game in the help and guides thread now, btw!

I pretty much always get the best sayra choice. My insight is always high because I've memorized all the right answers for gaining insight on day 1.

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I did every single one of those things you mentioned, and didn't receive the rebel gift. Any time I could comfort Ria instead of receive a stat boost, I did. I received the Ria/Sayra gift.  And I got Ria's confession.

Anything that boosted Ria or Sayra I did. I invited Ria to both events and I invited Sayra to the girls night. I didn't have the stats to succeed in the onvu tournament.

There's one rebel approval thing I missed the first go through which was responding to Lady Estelle about Imogen being innocent. I'll find out at the end of week 4 if it will let me choose to participate in the rebellion. I'm using a guide to boost my persuasion everywhere I can. I'm going to assume if I still can't continue the romance by picking that answer that I need to redo it...AGAIN.

Do I need Sayra's secret for a successful romance with Clarmont, so he survives to the end without peace?

and omg, i just remembered something and it will blow my mind if this is the ONLY reason I'm not getting the rebel gift because the guides don't say that this choice affects any approval. Because I thought it only affected my personality. But on day 1 when talking to Gisette, because i have no manipulation, I choose to say I support her in order to improve my relationship with her and nothing else. Might I have to either avoid talking to her or support the people?

EDIT: I still couldn't choose the "participate in rebellion" 
According to one guide all I need to get it are the right answers and ethical. Do I need to be max ethical? I'm almost max but not quite.
I'm not even sure what choices I made that prevent full ethical...unless it's the option I mentioned above on day 1?

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I think you messed up with Gisette, for the peace in Revaire ending I would avoid her unless you're playing with at least 75 manipulation.  (and truthfully I wouldn't go this route without it for the legacy ending).

First I greeted Sayra, Ria and Jasper friendly

invited them to eat 

When talking to Ana click Gisette want to talk to u for 5+ manipulation

NEED TO TALK TO ZARAD, CLARMONT, EMMET  AND JARROD (for peace in Revaire ending) (would immediently go to the first introductions don't waste time on hair and makeup)

Save Penelope from Jarrod in the first introductions when talking to Clarmont

rebel secret 1 in kitchen

made Kaytia's legacy my goal

Host a event and invite Sayra 

------week 2 --------

Met Clarmont in the garden

meet Jarrod in the training room

forbidden room (for trial- you need 100% to get rebel respect)

cliffs (rebel secret 2) 

--------week 3-------

Befriended/romanced Jarrod and rejected him, (needs 450 persuasion). 

accept Clarmont's proposal 

Host an event and invite Sayra

-----week 4-----

Say 'I'm sure Imogen is innocent' in the supper after the murder

visit crime scene in first day and examin everything

find alibis for Imogen 

go see the other crime scene and click rummage through everything, and click everything but the water option

(70 manipulation of 50 courage needed to talk to Kade)

He's the murder ordered by the island natives. He used a rosethorn, made the horses disappear, Framed Gisette, (idk the rest off the top of my head)

On the last day Zarad with enough friendship will meet u and tell u about the weapon used and u have to go to the servants quarters to check for it. 

Achieve a perfect trial, by clicking the ace up my sleeve

Go on dates with Clarmont

-----week 5------

go to servants quarters, Mrs White will give u a nod if u have MAX approval with the rebels.

go on dates with Clarmont 

and do the break up scene with him again.

-----week 6-------

Grind poise for the negotiations

----week 7-----

no need to host the ball

follow the wiki's advice on how to bring peace in Revaire, for the legacy ending u need to convince, Gisette, Jarrod and Sayra

How_to_Bring_Peace_to_Revaire

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You definitely don't need max Ethical, I got it with a Widow that kept toeing the line and I was juuuust barely on the ethical side of the halfway mark when Clarmont tried to break up with me. (I remember I had to wait to do a murder on my personal issue storyline, finishing it JUST in time to not get arrested, so I think I was even back into Immoral when Sayra talked to me.)


Also, to get Mrs White's nod, you just need to have filled half of the Rebel approval bar (which is the "max" you can have at this point, or thereabouts).

I think you can still figure out the secret and continue the storyline with all the other requirements, and not having 50% Rebel approval just gives you a lot of Clarmont and Sayra rivalry (Mrs White gets mad at you but you still piece it together). This is probably for the allying with Gisette's family route, but maybe you can still ally with the rebels anyway...? It doesn't take away from their friendship/romance/respect, so maybe it's still possible.

I don't think you can ally with the rebels without Sayra telling the truth. But you can avoid a 'bad' end in Revaire, with the widow MC surviving at the end. 

Do I need to invite Sayra to the first event even though I know she will decline? That's the only thing I didn't do. I didn't realize the importance there can be of inviting certain people who don't come, just to raise stats with them (like Jasper). Does increasing Sayra's stats affect the rebel approval?

I've figured out the main secret every time just without the Sayra part. So she's the reason I can't participate in the rebellion? Where in the timeline does she tell you her secret so I know if I've messed up? Before the play but after the trial? An exact day would be nice if you know it. Do I need to receive Mrs. White's gift too? Or is it possible to get Sayra's secret without receiving the gift? Because I don't know what I'm not doing in order to get that gift.

My current build doesn't have high enough persuasion to give me the option of a public ambition of Katiya's legacy. Is having that as a public ambition required for the rebels? Do I need to redo the character build to increase my persuasion to make it possible?

According to a guide, Ana's acceptance to your week 1 event is automatic, but she declined. Was this previously true and now changed? Or do you have to have zero rivalry? The only rivalry answer I gave was for the etiquette boost on day 1, but gave the best answers all other times including her date.

I just fixed the guide- the requirement you saw is for characters inviting you, not you hosting events. You need <10 rivalry for Ana to accept your week 1 event (tea or musical).

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gotcha. thank you 👍

one more question. do you know if the relationship scores are considered when you send the invite or when the event happens? since Ana's date happens after you send the invite but before the event, does what you earn affect the acceptance to the invitation or was it already decided before the date, when you first sent the invitation?

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Relationship score is only considered when the event happens. Also, beware that if you offend Ana with the "proper lady" choice, this will bring enough rivalry to make her refuse your event even if you do everything right on your date with her.

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So I absolutely swear I chose all seven Jarrod reform flag options but there was no conversation with him triggered before the revaire negotiations. I wish there was a way I could check the game log to know for sure if I got them all or unknowingly missed one.

Is there any other requirement I could be missing? I didn't finish the rebel secret this time through so I never got choices with Gisette. I'm not on his romance path and my background is Revaire. But the guide doesn't list any other requirements outside of the "reform flags"

For endings. If you're from Revaire. Will you always get a bad ending unless you get peace or able to take a side?

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Updated the guide- redeeming Jarrod is tied to bringing peace to Revaire, so you need all the rebel secret and convincing Gisette to peace to have that conversation with Jarrod. And yes, Widow has to take a side in the Revaire conflict to avoid a bad ending, which means you need the rebel secrets.

How do I keep Lyon from breaking up with meee

The main thing is you need to make sure Lyon's romance level is high enough and that your MC is ethical and compassionate. After that it's a matter of you picking the right dialogue options in the choices that come afterwards. As long as you picked all the right answers OR picked almost every right answer (I think you can miss one or two) and have at least 400 persuasion you should be good to go with him!

Is there a quick way to view the list of physical attributes we chose for our MC?

I'm playing a Revaire Widow with full or near full noble, compassionate, and ethical personality traits but when Gisette came and asked for the names of rebels my only option presented was to tell her everything (and get the Royal Habits achievement). Are there other options that I could've unlocked? Is this because I also had a full ambitious trait? This is really awkward because I was romancing Clarmont :*)

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Did you get the conversation with Sayra before the one with Gisette?

No, I didn't even figure out Sarya's deal this run.

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Yeah, you have to get Sayra’s approval higher to be able to get the peace or rebel outcomes.

Quote from Aly earlier in this thread:

Sayra's friendship and respect are boosted by  choosing katyia's legacy, being nice to the servants (introducing yourself, comforting ria, sticking up for sayra when the delegate is bugging her, ) inviting her the onvu tournament,  or the girls night, saving Imogen at the trial (this is a big one, it gives a 20/20 boost for the best performance and a 10/10 for saving her)”

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you're having the exact issue I had a couple weeks ago. Everything that was already said

But you also might need Rebel approval. After the last rebel secret, Mrs. White in the servants quarters, if Clarmont's rivalry goes to 50% then rebel approval isn't high enough.

Did you get Mrs. White's Gift and Sayra/Ria's gift before the breakfast?

And on day 1, did you talk to Gisette at all? if so what was the last answer you gave?

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I wish there was a character guide to increasing specific characters' friendship for outcomes, choices, or endings.

For example, before I get to the week 7 conversation with Gisette, I've done everything else right, but I guess my friendship is barely below 50 (which I assume would be half the bar) and rivalry is 30 or higher. My friendship might be 40 or even 45. Other than Katiya's footsteps I don't think I did anything else to get Gisette Rivalry. I invited her to my events and gave her the best gift and succeeded in her event.

What other friendship boost is there? I used the guide to pick all her best conversation answers. Maintained her friendship after week 3 getting matched with someone else. At the beginning I successfully lied to her about supporting her. I visited her in the Gazebo after the horse ride.

I failed the check after the "great arguments question" I never got to the blackmail option. I went back and tried for the Sayra/Jarrod marriage and she killed me.

Can I convince Gisette to peace without getting a perfect acquittal? I got the next best thing. I guess that also adds rivalry. 
And why doesn't respect factor into these? I literally have respect from her maxed.

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this guide has a very specific walkthrough (in the week 7 tab) to choosing all the correct answers in your gisette convo, i'd also recommend looking in the guides and resources thread if you're struggling with something

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I know, that's the guide I used. I did all the right answers for both different ways to peace. 1 rejected. 2 (sayra/jarrod) dead

according to that page of the guide i need less than 30 rivalry (+2 wrong if not) and at least 50 friendship (+1 wrong if not). If I get +3 wrong there's an auto fail at the point I'm struggling with. I have both. And I need help knowing how to prevent gisette's rivalry from getting that high and how her friendship could be higher than it is because I did everything I know about. The only way to get her rivalry down would be perfect acquittal but my warfare knowledge is too low to achieve that without starting over.

EDIT: i was not friends with zarad

are you friends with zarad? you can receive a perfect acquittal without warfare if you have him to tell you the method of murder

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I think you misunderstood some parts of the guide, let me help you.

In your w7 Gisette convo, you don't need a good relationship with her to convince her to peace. The choices during the Gisette relationship check are "Yes, I do" and "Best not", choosing the latter will let you avoid the check. Now, before that choice, if you have 30 or more rivalry with her you will get +1 WRONG (or +2 if 40 rivalry, or +3 if 60 rivalry), but if you haven't pissed her off much beforehand it should be fine.

(For the record, saying your goal is Katiya's legacy gives +10 rivalry, not having all aquit for trial and just most aquit gives +20 rivalry. Katiya's Legacy pretty much requires all aquit so you probably should redo it if that's your goal.)

And yes, Zarad will help you before the trial if you're romancing him or have 25 friendship with him. Tell me if you need help on befriending him.

Thank you for clearing things up. I was under the impression that "Best not" would end the conversation. I didn't realize it only skipped a single check.

Avoiding the check, I can make it past where I was before.

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Just saw Aly's Tumblr post saying Weaver might give 10? Manipulation bonus and I'm EXCITED!!! Really helpful for my Wellin and Arland MCs! I usually choose max Manipulation in the CC for the others, but with the Weaver bonus and all the other bonuses, they could still have 75 manipulation in the beginning! So I can choose another skill in the CC! :D

I'm absolutely certain that I saw all the scenes for the Hise MC's plot (successfully got info from Hamin and Zarad), to the point where selecting "Pursue personal affairs" just kicked me back to the standard free time screen, but I never got the achievement. Did I miss something, or is this just another bug?

"Negotiation Preparation", right? I have it, so it's not fully bugged out

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What's the max manipulation you can get as the Princess from CC?  Also, can the Princess ever redeem Jarrod, or will she never have enough persuasion for the check no matter what she does? I'm trying to plan for a Princess run where she ends up with both Jarrod and Gisette but I can't tell if it's doable! Or if NG+ bonuses are a must for that route.

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Princess can get like 25 max from CC, only in the question about bandits because choosing the other options will lock her background. Plus the ng bonuses (Revaire siblings/Avalie) would be 40. Redeeming Jarrod requires his week 1 date and Arland can never get enough courage to pass it. For the Revaire 3p you don't have to do anything with Jarrod. Just be immoral, romance Gisette, and she'll handle it. Side with Revaire royals and choose "something of you both" with Jarrod in week 7. Complete the Rebel secret chain, which doesn't include Sara's secret.

I tried it while befriending Sarya and the rebels then betraying them, but I guess the previous version was bugged because it made Jarrod marry Sarya. Maybe it's fixed now, but I tried again without Sara's secret or rebel approval and it worked. Also don't choose Katiya;s legacy for goal. Hope this helps :)

All noted, thanks a bunch! <3

You can also pass Jarrod's date check with 50 Poise too if I'm not mistaken.

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Nope, it's only 50 courage or 75 manipulation - the reward for passing the date is poise which I think may be where the confusion comes from?

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You sure? I've seen 50 Courage or 50 Poise on the 7KPP wikia (when I looked a few weeks ago at least.) I'll go and test it because obviously, as the Princess I don't have the required manipulation or courage and I just looked at my princess save (my first ng+) and in character creation I didn't give her the (alleged) required poise either.

Will report back!! EDIT: Yeah, 50 Poise doesn't do it, sorry friend.

The EA guide only lists 50 courage or 75 manipulation, the Wikia is out of date and inaccurate in certain respects - I've been playing this game since 2015 and I've never passed with poise that I can remember ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Haha no worries, thanks for double checking!

Is there any other way to up manipulation besides conversations? I'm wondering whether I missed something during the free time to do list option for manipulation

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Ahh could be the Jarrod practice room scene, but only one version gives manipulation if you did everything correctly in your previous interactions

You can also get manipulation from being Subtle in week 4 and Weavers gift in week 3 (pretty easy to get)

in the complete EA guide (link in guides and resources) there's a guide to what choices/unlocks raise manipulation!

Hi, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can't get the clean slate version to clear my seen text. It will work initially in 1.07 after I select the option but then when I close it and open 1.12 my seen text is still there. Is there a step I'm missing? Alternatively if someone could let me know what file to delete to brute force it (I already tried deleting the renpy file from appdata) 

Thanks!

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Hey I finally figured this out, leaving it here in case anyone else is having the same issue

Delete the 'persistent' file in the AppData\Roaming\RenPy folder then go back to the Seven Kingdom Princess Problem \game\saves folder and delete the 'persistent' file there

Simply deleting the folder in AppData\Roaming\RenPy will cause the game to pick up on the 'persistent' file in the SKPP \game\saves folder. This will then sync the file there back into the AppData\Roaming\RenPy folder.

To put it simply, both the universal persistent file and the local persistent file must be deleted to get a clean slate. If you only delete one but not the other, then the game will continue to check both locations and sync to the one that has the most progress.

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I played as the Revaire MC on my first playthrough and got the bad end, I suspect its because I didn't bother finding out about the country's internal conflict.

Its not compulsory to find out for every MC unless we are from Revaire or aiming for one of the Revaire LI are we? I don't want to play another round just to get the bad end again for the same reason 😭

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playing as revaire!mc or romancing/marrying an LI from revaire do both require you to find out about (and take a side in) the revaire conflict!

Thank you, now I can play in peace 😭

Is the rebel leader origin locked? I know the game has a prompt that says it’s unavailable right now but I keep seeing guides that say to use that origin but the game won’t let me select it

Which guides are these? The rebel origin hasn't been written yet (nor have the other two secret backgrounds). Is it possible you're confusing it with pursuing the rebel secret chain?

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From my understanding, if your LI is Jasper you need to be successful in getting the best ending for Revaire? And by getting the CGs it means that you unlocked the best ending?
I got the CG of Sayra on the throne with Gisette being her Spy Master, I got Penelope to go to Skalt, I even got Jarrod to step down peacefully but I couldn't get Jasper's CG. I even got legendary host & belle of the ball during the ball. The only thing I could think of that I'm missing is the historian route, I didn't have enough time blocks to explore that :(

Is the missing link the historian route or something else?

Not just Revaire, you need to get good/legendary outcomes for all 7 kingdoms. Please check the guide for that, see the quickstart section.

I am having problems unlocking the "more than I seem" backgrounds I have have seen two appear but it says that they aren't available yet. Is this a bug? Are they teasers for an upcoming version, or do I need to do something special to unlock them? I am playing the full version of the game, and have done a successful play-through of each main background

Those are the secret origins, they'll be available to play once the game is out of early access!

Am I understanding it correctly that if you play a widow and haven't fully unlocked the rebel secret chain it's impossible to get anything other than the worst possible ending for your character?

When Gisette came to see me during the final week, she realized I didn't know about the rebels, and just got dissapointed and left, and I was not able to have any input on the negogiations that just ended in war. I understand that the Revaire/Rebel plotline is difficult, but just..

In order to fully unlock the rebel scret chain you need at least 60 insight (specifically for the scene with Gisette and Jarrod at the cliffs in week 2). During the welcome feast I focued on roleplay/personality rather than farming insight, so did I just fully doom my character with a roleplay decision made durng the first event of the game with no possibility to do anything to change it afterwards? That seems harsh.

You are correct. You can’t get a good ending for Revaire without having completed the rebel chain.

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I agree that's pretty harsh on not letting people have different play styles and being able to get the best endings. 

It would be nice if every skill check had multiple solutions for more flexibility, instead of requiring the player to have to play one single way in order to succeed. Otherwise despite many dialogue choices, there isn't actually any choice if you want the best ending.

Does anyone know how can be noticed by the historians for the ending?

I'm on challenge mode but I kept getting the assassination ending even though I have enough stats in defensive instincts? It's a bit discouraging because I've spent so much time already on this route haha

I cannot pass the second matchmaker interview for anything. I've been trying for three days (doing both a Jiyel and a Hise background.) I have four or fewer stats less than 50, and I earned the "girl to bring home" achievement. Is it something to do with my relationships?

Or is it better to play a few runs in causal instead of challenge mode to get a feel for the game? I typically try to avoid walkthroughs on my first several runs, but now even after looking at the guides, I'm still struggling, haha.

it could be a relationships thing or an approval thing! also every skill greater than 75 will give you bonus points, same with every knowledge over 50 (or 25, in the case of secrets)

as for relationships i think you need high friendship + respect + romance with as many people as possible + little to no rivalry + high kingdom faction approval - my recommendation is to host events both weeks and generally go on as many dates as your skills/personality will let you pass

Thank you!! I finally got it. I think it was because I had some rivalry/possibly not enough friendship.

Guys is there an epilogue cg and bonus stat for Jasper?

I'm playing as a moral widow and did everything the guide say to get perfect endings for all the kingdoms but somehow  i can only get the perfect ending for Jiyel and Arland as well as golden ending for Revaire. High skills and maximum approval from all the kingdoms without missing anything (in the guide) yet the only thing i get is the proposal to stay with him and marry but only friends at the epilogues.

Is my forth time trying and nothing, not even using the remaining power. The only thing that i didn't get was Lisle and Zarad  secret (for blackmail) and i'm  playing on Story Mode.

Anyone have any idea what im doing wrong? I followed everything on the community guide and Katyia Legacy guide (meaning even Aly advices).

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If you’re able to marry Jasper but didn’t get his epilogue cg, then you’re missing legendary endings from some countries.

Are you sure you have fulfilled all the conditions listed in the quickstart section in the big spreadsheet guide? If the answer is yes, then you probably need to choose more choices that fits your best stats. Can’t really see what is missing with your play through without knowing your stats and choices made in detail, though as a widow who managed golden ending for Revaire you should have all the stats to succeed.

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to get jasper's bonus stats and epilogue, you need to get Katya's legendary ending, ,meaning you have to restore peace in Revaire without a civil war and all NATIONS must have the best peace agreements. 
The fact that you only get the perfect ending only for Jiyel and Skalt, tells me that for the other negotiations that you lack either positive relationships with the others involved or you don't have the right amount of skills. 

Choosing the right answers/ options during negotiations is the right step, but depending on the skill, which backs up whatever claim you choose your MC to say, it might backfire. 


You didn't mention that you gained Avalie as an ally. You need her to get Katya's legendary ending. Without her you can't. 

The Blackmailing is not relevant, you don't need to know Lisle or Zarad's secrets to get the legendary ending. You need to know Avalie's secret though, so that you are able to become her ally. 

Different person here. I got the legendary endings for Arland/Jiyel, Corval/Hise, and Skalt/Wellin. However, I think for Revaire I got the "good" ending, not the legendary one. Am I missing something? 

  • I convinced Gisette and her family to step down. Sayra became the queen.
  • I did NOT befriend and reform Jarrod. I rejected his week 1 date so I could go uncover secrets. 
  • Gisette did NOT become Sayra's spymaster. I know she became spymaster in some of my other playthroughs, so I don't know what I missed this time.
  • I convinced Avalie to be my ally and got the ending CG for her. (I don't know if that's relevant.)
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You have your answer there- Revaire legendary requires reforming Jarrod.

Thank you! I guess I have to reject someone else's Week 1 date.

Hi, sorry to bother anyone but I am having some trouble triggering the option to enter a political marriage while romancing a different character like Ria. I've done the three events in week 4/5 and I'm topped out on friendship with, say, Lisle and Penelope for instance... but nothing ever happens. I feel like I must be stupid or something since it doesn't seem like anyone else has asked about it. I would just appreciate some direction please.

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You need to do the political marriage option once in week 6.

thank you, you beautiful person. Now I just have to figure out why the trigger for the bonus and cg for befriending Avalie didn't work despite getting her friendship ending and I'm golden.

Thank you again, I appreciate the help a lot.

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you have to get the legendary ending for jiyel and arland if you want avalie's epilogue/bonus!

Another beautiful person D: thank you so much. Imma get them bonuses and then I will still have several other playthroughs because I love this game so much. Thank you, your help really means a lot to me, I've been feeling so frustrated I even stopped playing for a couple hours before going back and just playing again because I can't stay away lol

How to get influence points for the last negotiation?