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"Voices Of The Void" Pre-Alpha

Gather unknown signals from deep, silent space · By mrdrnose

Voices of the Void 0.8.0 Bug Reports

A topic by mrdrnose created Aug 19, 2024 Views: 45,403 Replies: 475
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Omega Kerfur constantly gets stuck because of the new map relief, you can insert 2 at once into the disk port.

The old Kerfur animation when you pet him was better, there he lowered his head, and now he looks at the player and it looks weird.

(Please bring back the bug with flying on a trash can T^T )

Changed:

And I also accidentally (as I understand it) turned on the setting due to which the player falls when colliding with an object. But when I turned this setting off again, the player continues to fall!!!

Bug 1: In Solar mode, suns do not spawn, and the "Bad Sun" event does not occur when day comes.

Bug 2: The physics of the curtains are broken (at the lowest settings). When you move them, the curtain snaps to one position and takes quite a long time to return to its original state.

Bug 3: A piece of meat is visible through the ceiling in the warehouse, and the same issue occurs with trash visible on the stairs.

Bug 4: The old drone hole remains in the garage. Since the drone has been relocated, it's better to remove this hole.

Bug 5: In the scanning room, the FPS drops significantly, especially near the computer.

Bug 6: In the security booth near the gate, a disk can be found. However, when you hover over it, there is no interface to "Take" or "Use" it.

Bug 7: The physics for pallets is missing. Pallets can interact with other objects, but they become "ghost-like" when interacting with the player. 

Bug 8: I can't call dron! i click use but dron not calling (dron online)

Translated using GPT4o may have errors.

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for bug 6, that drive is supposed to be a troll, you're not actually meant to be able to take it, it's replaced with an edible fake drive after the first day
for bug 7, they don't collide with the player, because when it used to in earlier versions it was very common that they just send you flying randomly
for bug 8, your radio tower is down, you need to fix it using the panel at the top

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Also, the placement for receiving and sending packages with the drone has been changed to outside the garage instead of through the sunroof. I had the same problem with the drone so remember to check if you are putting your packages in the right location too.

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there is multiple reasons/events for the hole in the garage as well as benefiting the solar powered atv module, so I doubt it will be removed
and for bug 5, make sure you're not leaving a camera on your monitor re-drawing some expensive part of the world, especially looking in/at your base

BAD SUN event working with real life days ,not ingame time

I parked my ATV outside the garage at the bottom of the ramp so it could get sun to recharge and it disappeared. I tried locating it with the command and I reached the edge fence of the map before seeing any sign of it. I also tried the reset vehicle option in the save menu but it did nothing as far as I can tell, compass indicator for vehicle still points off into the distance beyond the border fence.

Just to clarify I did restart the game and re-download/replace the game files but the issue persists and I must now hoof it everywhere which takes up a lot more time.

Update: found it!

Not sure how but I think the Ariral ATV refill event was bugged because I used the hook to climb the border fence and found it with about 300 gas and -700 HP near the invisible map border, it was a bitch to get back over the fence but I did manage and got it repaired.

Still no idea why the save menu reset vehicle option didn't work but I got my ATV back so I'm not super concerned.

Братан есть небольшая проблема которая фикситься омега керфусом но всё же,
на новой карте обычный керфус имеет старые пути передвижения и поэтому очень часто застрявает в различных местах
будь то бревно, мост на озере, сама радиовышка, или платформа возле гаража.
Было бы очень божественно если бы пути обычного керфуса были немного пофикшены ))))
Заранее спасибо пускай и даже не будет за что
игра отпад)))))

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red string is completely broken looking, it floats off of anything you attach it to and looks very stupid
i'm trying to make a conspiracy board with a lot of photos of entities on it and it just looks dumb when it try to put string connecting to different photos
edit: apologies for sounding rude on this post, i was mad about other things (not the game) and it carried over to how this post was written

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На 15 й день у меня поплыли чёрные полосы на базе
и именно на базе, в других локациях их нет
сначала я насыпал в трусы кирпичей и подумал что меня сейчас кто то сожрёт
но увы, это графический артефакт

В общем я провёл тщательное расследование и выяснил какого фурфура появляются чёрные полосы
как оказалось это настройка графического параметра солнечных лучей которые пытаются пробить сквозь стены базы
и в следствии они создают данный артефакт
это не приколы видеокарты
скрины железа прилагаю к скринам с игры
надеюсь эту штуку починят ибо лучи в игре отличные
но не на данный момент

I also have that issue, turns out it's the sun rays setting, I had to set it to 0 to fix it.

this is in 0.7 but it is also present in 0.8 there is a very odd drive in the booth at the gate (where you spawn) it has the same name and description in the inventory as a regular drive  however you cant put in the drive slot at the  base and for some reason you can eat it, sometimes the options when hovering over the item do not appear but you can still pick it up.

this has existed for a very long time, when you first load the save it's a normal inedible drive but you can't grab it, it turns into the edible one either after the first day or when the save reloads (i forgot which), it's supposed to be nothing but a troll if you somehow get it to your base

"Mmmm tasty drives."

-Dr. Kel, probably.

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im on day 26 of the game and each time i go to the console in the office there's what sounds like an incoming missile (?) and then my game crashes with a fatal error message. i updated and restarted my laptop, but that didn't help, and i have plenty of storage so i'm not sure what that's about! it might be an issue on my end or the game's end, but i thought it was significant enough to mention.

Update to the newest 0.8 version

In the tutorial level if you vault over the generator under the horizontal pillar you will get stuck inside of it. If you press C to ragdoll out of it you will clip outside on top of the level and the game will crash.

My game crashed randomly when working on a signal. The whole screen started getting coloured vertical and horizontal lines, much like the "pipes" screensaver in windows 98, then crashed to desktop with a "fatal crash" message. I have the crash report files generated. What's the best way to attach them?

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Had you been playing for an extended period of time when this happened?

This sounds like an exact description of what happened to me when I played for several hours and ran into the crash box entity.

After an extended play session the game will flash your screen black several times before spawning an entity (appearing as a black censor box that can be seen through walls) that follows you around and will crash the game if you touch it; I've been calling it the "Touch Grass Demon" since my spouse referred to it as such lol.

There is also another entity that may appear with the same crash effect if you continue playing for even longer. This is probably what happened cause the crash box won't approach you close enough for a crash itself

I haven't seen any crash entity (I know what you're talking about, I've seen it in someone's playtrough). It almost looked like something was wrong with my graphics card, but not quite the same. Altho, I wouldn't be surprised to find out this is an event/feature, not a bug, given how this game plays out lol

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that is a dedicated fake crash effect, so some event triggered it- you might not have noticed the entity approaching you, or there might be a signal event that crashes the game too- close the lockers in your work room if you're getting signals of a live camera feed

При покупке любых предметов с вилкой конец вилки застревает под землёй из за чего тяжело достать предмет

бро у каждого предмета с вилкой сзади есть функция ресета вилки

Типо как тут?

да вон та зеленая кнопочка

До которой никак не дотянуться?

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the fire tank turned over and could not get up at ~ x:263.01 y:-26.09 

also some of the hover hogs appeared to be stationary (supposedly got stuck or something i didn't check on them) at x:-65.5 y:292.5, x:309.4 y:337.5 and  x:-643.7 y:-249.7

reopening the game thankfully put everything back to normal

upd: it did not helped the tank however. i had to push it with my ATV for it to stand up 

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the most unpleasant bug for me is that sometimes when trying to throw away rusty cans of food, they freeze forever in this place without being able to get rid of them, perhaps this is due to the fact that before that I put them in a blue basket from the garage

also happened to me but with an empty can. perhaps sell gun may get rid of them? i'll try later

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned this already, or if its just an issue with my game, or if this is a bug. But everything inside of TR_3, is partially glitched outside of it, the transformer is halfway glitched through a wall, with the button sticking outside, and the perimeter is filled with trash from the interior.

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The individual unused trashbags...please...they are one of the heaviest things in the game now. My base and transformers need to be clean. Please MrDrNose

Should you walk over the discolored area pictured (base mailbox in top right for reference),



you will fall straight through to the ground and under the base.

Intentional

Are you for real right now because knowing this game I am honestly not sure

Yep, it is so you can get stuff that clips under the base iirc

Okay that makes sense thanks for clearing that up

It's just a small sweet secret)

The TV remote can be bound to anything with the generic Use action. This includes the base doors, containers (such as the 8x8x8 cardboard box) and the base computer monitor.

Meaning you can have a recall potion back to base. Related bug, the TV remote forgets what it was bound to if you put it in your inventory, but does not if its dropped on the ground.

This is possibly my favorite thing in this version, allowing you to claim points from Point Mines without getting your ears blasted walking up to them. You could even rename remotes so they don't stack (losing whatever they are assigned to) with Tags (Notes/Paper) I think it's also possible to set them up to even remotely access servers for satellites and be able to repair them remotely, which is super cheesy. When you attempt to bind them to Transformers they'll explode ?Deleting? the remote, so I'm not entirely sure if it is a bug for them to be bound to anything or if it is intentional. Very fun to play with though, especially after repeat playthroughs. 

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Oh yeah dgmw the idea itself of being able to use the remote for other things isn't bad, but I feel like having having an Ender Chest and Magic Mirror back to base is a little busted.

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you can already teleport instantly back to the base with numpad .

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Almost everytime I launch the game, some parts of the base become corrupted like this. It's kind of random wich parts do this, sometime it's the walls,  sometime it's the doors etc...

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Naming the cameras on the computer is very wierd and confusing coz you name it but when you go to next one and its blinking ready to type name he continues to type in previous one, also he make in caps but then is not and sometimes show 2 names blinking to type at same time

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while i just played, game chose to do some little trolling and send me to the backrooms.  It's fun and interesting but after planned crash of the game, i've tried to load my safe and game spawn me in nothing. I tried to restart the game and reset the game events and items but it did not help. 

I am not sure if it's bug or just my luck, but i am afraid to lose 9 days in this game.

Please help (

(Ok after trying to regenerate the game data this happen in after game load)

https://watch.wave.video/qI8Kk4eW7Gcx4UsH

There's a way to softlock yourself. I entered one of the barracks near the hole while Kerfus-Omega was following me. He ran into the door and closed it behind me. Since the door opens only one way, Kerfus keeps the door shut. I haven't found any other way to get out so I had to reload my save.

You can destroy the doors, assuming you have a way to damage them

I didn't had any weapons on me at the moment. Maybe I could've broken the door by throwing stuff at it, but I probably would've died of hunger before breaking it.

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Once i play the game, the pause menu button offsets are completely different, and it's REALLY annoying me.

Your resolution setting doesn't match the one you have

For some reason the game's video is frozen unless it's tabbed out. It was working fine a few days ago, new file and redownloading does nothing.

all my settings get reseted to 0 everytime i am leaveing settings

and "node graph out of date" thingy

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1. Пустые пакеты для мусора весят много. Баг или фича?

2. Игра крашится и подвисает НАСМЕРТЬ если попробовать перемотать видео в ТВ на определённую точку.

3.  Иногда приходят пустые сообщения на некоторые сигналы - типа чёрных дыр (английский\русский язык - не важно). Остальные сигналы как-то комментируются.

4. При згрузке игры где-нибудь в лесу небольшой кусочек земли под ногами не прогружает текстуру земли\травы.

5. Некоторые предметы (картошечка, электронный мусор, консервные банки) при выкладывании из инвентаря (команда place) накладываются один поверх другого, образуя "лесенку" висящих в воздухе предметов. С другими предметами такого не замечено.

after saving and re-entering with the inserted drive, this compartment is broken and you can no longer insert the drive there, re-entering the game does not help

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invalid effect when using syringe 

wait never mind. forgot i could update. fixed.

I can't put anything down or take anything out of my backpack, and there were important resources for m

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I've got some minor spoilers in this post.

Got a couple things to point out in terms of bugs, but the first two are suggested recommendations:

-Player needs to be able to transfer liquids between containers. Specifically I am thinking of the gas cans, but it'd probably be a good idea if we could do so with other things as well, depending on if there's plans to add more items that store liquids or not. I just like the idea of moving my gas into other cans so I don't end up wasting any of it when I make scrap metal.

-It'd be neat if toggling sounds was remembered, but I imagine that might be more complicated since the settings more or less reset after returning to the main menu. Only solution I could think of would be to add a tick box that toggles the "universality" of the sound settings in saves, but I imagine that's also very complicated and would require a massive amount of work for a minor complaint. Probably something to consider if/when an overhaul is needed for other, more important reasons.


Actual bug-related things to note:

-Sometimes "entering" the computer will occasionally result in clicking/changing something, such as changing the positions/zoom of cameras, interacting with various buttons on the menu, buying/selling upgrades/modules, etc. Seems to depend on the position of the mouse. I imagine bug-testing would be to repeatedly enter/exit the computer screen, and whoever's doing it might want to record the gameplay to review the results to send to others involved, as sometimes it's unclear what was clicked on. That's up for the bug-testers to decide, though. I'd suggest making a sandbox game, getting all of the effects under the "Upgrades" tab, then entering and exiting repeatedly as mentioned before. It's a bit weird when it tends to activate as I've not experienced it too much in 0.8.0e, but maybe that's because I specifically go out of my way to avoid it by entering the camera or photos tab, which seems to largely negate the "phantom" clicking. Either way, I do know it happens and is an issue, at least for me.

-Achievements can be completed/gained through the sandbox. The one I got was specifically the "feed argemia X times". I put this in the "bugs" section because usually other games will disable achievements when things like cheats/over-powered abilities are activated, such as in the Grand Theft Auto franchise, Red Faction: Guerilla, at least one of the Saint's Row games, some of the Tropico games, etc. But if the devs (or whoever is reading) doesn't care about any of that, then you can just ignore this one.

Disclaimer:I am using the following mods (and their dependencies) and have no idea if this is caused by them: DigitalMapV2 and Quiet Miners

So after KerfurO got stuck on the hill between Sierra and Tango (including this in case it is related), i went to collect the hash codes myself. I started from TANGO, where i did the hash, exited the console and reentered the console again because i forgot to set compass to next server. When i reentered the console the server designation was FOXTROT (don't have pic sorry). I exited and reentered the console and it was TANGO again. (I don't know if this is an event or a bug, i haven't found anyone mention something similar). 

When i delivered the report, email said report was wrong and i needed to redo Sierra. So i went to root console to check the codes that were already saved there, and i noticed that SIERRA and QUEBEC are identical which shouldn't be the case. The codes in order are TANGO, SIERRA, KILO, QUEBEC and FOXTROT. 

I thought this might be related to the server designation change i described above. (I assume that when i went to Sierra the server designation had changed again without me noticing (like it did in Tango) and actually gave me the hashcode for Quebec.) Will try to replicate and reply here if it happens again.

What kind of mods do you have installed?

DigitalMapV2
Quiet Miners

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My Kerfur Omega got stuck twice when getting reports. The reports for that day were for Lima, Sierra, and Tango. It would go to Lima, get the report, go to Sierra, get the report, and then get stuck en route to tango. It would just stand there until  I turned it off. Video:

Okay so im not the only one lol, i tried to control him then kerfur would go back to the same spot could be path finding bug not sure

Because when you send him to collect codes and then start controlling him, he starts doing it all over again. 

By the way, this is a bug and we must hope that it will be fixed in the next updates

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I reported an issue with the radar skipping blips which got marked as "needs more info". I would be happy to elaborate and clarify as needed, but right now I have no idea what exactly needs to be clarified or elaborated upon (sadly, no comment was given in the tracker as to what info is needed), so if Vesper (or anyone from the bug tracking team really, just don't know anyone else) could please specify what info they need, I'd be glad to help.

Whatever it takes to get rid of the incessant radar beeping without outright refunding the entity difference module, really. 

(EDIT 10/02/24: Updated link to issue, as it was pointing to the wrong row after internal bug tracker reorganization)

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Saw the issue got changed from "needs more info" to "unable to reproduce". I've no idea what exactly it would take to make testers' computers to have lower framerate, but I've sanitized my save (plentiful with photos and objects for lower FPS than a fresh save) to have just three known blips for further ease of testing (Kel, the ATV, and the obelisk). Frankly, if that and messing with graphics settings is not enough to tank your FPS then I'm at a loss as to how to help anymore than this.

Here's also a video I decided to make while checking the bug does indeed happen on this save with my PC's specs, to further illustrate the bug. It's also made me realize  how much worse it's been getting since my first report, seeing such a small dip and short distance be enough. But my main points are still there: The offending blip is the one furthest from the base, and the issue happens at lower FPS.

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For unknown reason this picture of dog appears in all menus in game... I didn't used cheats or something... Is that a bug? I turned "fun setting"  off but it will not disappear... Restart laptop/game not working. i tried my pc too, but no dog appeared there, and on VM no dog too ... Is that a event of some kind? On my pc SPOILER! i seen some untecstured ball slowly fly into the sky from around tr1 on day 3... I sleept and spot something moving, and its just untecstured ball... lt maybe an ivent of some kind? Escape and saves worked while it happened. I don't find anything in wiki. Unfortunately i have no proof of that, i accidentally pressed "main menu" instead of "save".... Please, don't call me silly or stupid...


Upd: screenshot of that untecstured ball. Brightness is stepped out of chat, but there it exists... i got it on pc first, and on laptop second exactly now.

Эта собака появляется, когда у тебя каким то образом не загружаются патреоны, будь то интернет или другая причина, ничего особого

Спасибо за помощь. Осталось только понять что за шар я уже на втором ПК вижу на третий -пятый день игры. это новый ивент? Он просто улетает вверх до исчезновения за дальностью прорисовки. Эскейп и сохранения работают 

Чел дело говорит, это просто луна

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the "ball" is just a moon. also wipe your screen jeez

Вообще то это не луна. Оно взлтело лишь раз и больше его не было. Штош, походу теперь весь интернет считает меня шизом.....Брух...

Это луна. Она движется по траектории солнца и имеет фазы

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I noticed a very strange bug.

If you turn on any recording with a spectrogram, and right at that moment hold down the LMB with a sponge in your hands to wash the windows - the spectrogram will be reflected on the window, and the screen will be empty. Moreover, it appears only at the moment when you wash the window with a sponge, and its place of appearance is fixed, does not depend on the direction.





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Potential bugs: 1) The filter range upgrades don't seem to work for the oscilloscope frequency, only the degrees. 2) I have been invaded by 3-5 feral rocket hogs and even when I kill them, more take their place. It started probably around day 30 and has persisted through day 52. I like all the extra scrap but I'm very tired of a busy radar and having to periodically clean them out.

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I'm not sure if this is a bug, but when ever I send Kerfur out to collect reports he just goes to this spot and stares at the lake, moving him with cam controls works but as soon as you release him he goes back. He is still able to fix servers and transformers. 

Edit: taking control of Kerfur and moving him to the satellite in his line of sight seems to have broken him out of whatever trance he was in

if you take control of kerfur omega while their out doing the report, they'll start the report over again

found while trying to build walls, using the gravity gun while crouching makes you uncrouch and just threw me to the noclip prevention zone when doing it near a small protrusion in the base geometry parking lot.

the spot
It seems like Kerf-O gets stuck in a specific spot when doing reports and attempting to traverse from Uniform to Tango. Not sure if this happens with other combos of satellites but when i send out kerf-O to get reports they always walk to the same spot after getting Uniform's hash and stop moving, tried reloading but they do it every time. If you control and uncontrol them, they go back to Uniform and get the hash again before going back to the spot.


Also, Kerf-O looks at you while doing the pat/fixing animations which makes it look weird, probably the same for other animations

There is a visual bug with terrain where there are two different versions of the terrain at steep corners such as at the base of a cliff or next to the river which it swaps between when you use the zoom feature, I noticed the version of the terrain when you are zoomed in seems to represent the real terrain as it's how your character interacts with it and aligns with the fences along the river. This also leads to being able to look through the map while not zoomed in at some spots.

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Kerfur is unusable for me, due to the power cord catching on any and everything. every time I need to go out and find it and pull it of the rock or stairs. not sure if there some way to put the plug away or if this is a full on bug.

never mind, I found the activate button that put away the power plug. I swear I've hit that button a few times and never saw what it did. 

Наткнулся на очень всратый баг провала микроволновки сквозь текстуру кухонного стола. Рецепт: оставить в микроволновке тарелку, лечь спать, ВЫЛЕТЕТЬ ИЗ ИГРЫ ИЗ-ЗА ЦЕНЗУРО-КУНА , запустить игру, насладиться багом. Дверь отлетела, при отправлении тарелки в инвентарь микроволновка проваливается в плиту.

Кто-нибудь знает как это чинить?


Например... не ставить туда тарелку, без неё всё работает нормально

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я выловил баг и мне интересно как его чинить, а не как его избежать, к тому же если что-то в игре есть, то оно подразумевает ИСПОЛЬЗОВАНИЕ uwu к тому же кухня в спальне ещё с 0.7 проклятое место, там только так всё во всём застревает

Просто посмотри на Керфуса и то, как наплевательски он идёт за тобой. Впереди кровать или измельчитель? Пофиг, пройду насквозь, последствия ужасны

эм, бро, мне не очень интересны твои отношения с керфурами, если не знаешь, как помочь починить вечный баг провала в текстуры того или иного предмета - пройди мимо. или напиши в личку, если я уж так сильно тебя привлекаю лол.

выкинь ее или накопи на sell gun продай микроволновку и купи новую

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What day is it?

I've updated the game but it's still only running the previous version. I'm not able to access the new content. 

Completely delete the original files and then reinstall it. Also i know that you're "supposed" to make new saves on every update but it seems like some people don't have problems with that.

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There is a bug, where kerfur suddenly stops completing reports at one point and just stands there at 379 -604

https://imgur.com/a/Yl18ueX

Daily task is: Sierra Hotel Tango

Oh, the most common question, what happened to the Kerfur in this place =\

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I guess the problem is in the landscape, she gets stuck in a tree

i cant turn on the game  instead of starting the game, the folder where are suposed to be the game opens and I can't see the game anywhere

Hi! I played VotV when it was still in its 1.7 release, and my PC ran it just fine at it's highest settings. However since it's moved to 1.8, even on it's lowest settings (I'm talking everything at 1 or less, no dynamic lights, esc.), it lags out everything else on my PC. I often have music or discord on in the back ground, and no matter what I do it seems to take up way more processing power then it used to. I've tried giving it more RAM, playing in efficiency mode, esc. 

Any help would be much appreciated!

Hello developer! I found such a bug in version a0.8.0e: when entering any world in any mode and then exiting the pause menu, it is impossible to click on the buttons, but if you move the cursor a little to the right and below, a button selection sound appears, and if you click in this area, the buttons will be triggered and a particular menu will open. At the same time, the same error is in the player's inventory. Because of this, it is almost impossible to play. Thank you. (translated from Russian language) 

Скорее всего у тебя проблема в разрешении экрана, поиграйся с ним, должно помочь

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Спасибо за совет, попробую покопаться в настройках.   

Thanks for the advice, I'll try to dig into the settings. 

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The battery charger is pretty bugged, it will clip the base floor and get stuck. This one I grabbed from a delivery box and used "place" in the inventory. The place where it got stuck is unreachable from underneath the base due to invisible wall. I also experienced this earlier when a delivery box was autodestroyed and the battery charger got stuck in an unreachable position underneath the drone delivery pad.


*edited* to add that it emits a constant sound of physics jitter that never stops

Невозможно получить плюша Ламберта из  Cult of the lamb, после использования ритуального ножа плюш появляется слишком долго и ты просто умираешь даже не успев подобрать его

The scuba mask only needs one tank to be used infinitely. After partially depleting a tank by having the mask equipped: Set the mask on the ground. Use it to remove the tank. Hold the tank. Click to use it on the mask. This refills the tank to 100% capacity.

I gess its a waste of time for me to report any bug sense all my comments seem to be getting deleted

The signal tower for the drone disappeared. Saving and reloading seem to bring it back.
Shovel in wood shed fell through the map after I went to grab it.
When leaving the computer from the shop, items get added to the shopping list, even though they were not selected.
(I streamed my gameplay where these occurred. If you'd like, I can get clips of those.)

Hi,

I am not sure if this was a bug or not but it certainly bummed me out. I built up my mining rig, all gpu slots filled and 3 coolers had it running. What i did not know is that the rig could literally get destroyed.. this is fine by me.. what I was annoyed with was finding that all of my 16 gpus and coolers that I grinded countless hours for magically disappeared.. Is this a bug? This was my end game grind, now I’m not sure if I can handle playing the long game.. on day 52 and poor. I love the game regardless. But I really must know.. is this a bug? @mrdrnose

Thanks for all your hard work devs.

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all i know is your rig will explode into a great explosion of fireat 100 temp

you need 6 coolers bro

when i zoom in my terrain is ok but when I'm not zoomed in my terrain is kind of visibly broken in some places

 haven't seen anything like this in other reviews but its very annoying

I have the same issue, I think something with the LOD may be wrong.

I also saw some areas where fences are clearly vanishing when I am like 10 meters away from them, regardless of view distance.

Someone found that it is linked to your FOV being high, so if you can handle seeing less, that is a temporary fix.

when 2 glowsticks stick to each other they bug out when picked up forever

kerfur can make reports with power down 

После выключения компьютера во время игры (У меня свет выключили), игра перестала загружать сохранения: Каждый раз при входе, она рендерит иконки заново, настройки сбрасываются, а сохранения не загружаются.

В краш репорте, который образовался написано:

[CrashReportClient]
bHideLogFilesOption=false
bIsAllowedToCloseWithoutSending=true
CrashConfigPurgeDays=2

Кнопка восстановления не работает.
После удаления data.sav, игра снова смогла читать сохранения, но, на всех данные сбросились.
Прошу исправить эту ошибку, чтобы больше никто не терял свою игру

Very strange bug I discovered but if you turn on the winter mode whilst the basement is flooded, the physics seems to bug the fuck out and send you flying all over the place. In general, winter mode shouldn't freeze water indoors but I think that's already planned.

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I've reached the day 25 Event but whenever the Meteor thing lands it results in a Fatal error, just before it actually touches down tho (maybe)

I'm unsure how to fix this

Lower the graphics to the level of the original DOOM, specifically the resolution

If your version is not 0.8e, update to it

 the signals were different, but after the 15th day, only Mars comes across

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Update the game

I updated the game 20 days ago

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I encountered an event where dangerous music started playing, and I couldn't sleep or save near the base. Then, I noticed on the radar that something was in the garage on the elevator, but there was actually nothing there—just some weird spike particles coming out of the floor.

I guess the entity that was supposed to spawn did so under the floor. I can barely hear some strange alien noises coming from it, but still, it's not in the basement either. 
Particles spawning continuously

Ingore the blood from gut ball
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The same thing happened to me. There's a secret area under the base where that thing spawned (Check out the wall near the front door camera.) but you REALLY won't like what you find.

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Bug when any "greys" event starts and Kerfur-O is "missing" (sent to the flesh room), will break into pieces and make it impossible to recover due to the pieces still being in the flesh room

When spamming drop (to put things in the recycle bin) some stuff just starts floating in the air and I can't pick it up unless I grab it like its a burger or mushroom

this has only happened with elec scrap

Omega Kerfur has some pathing issues when I send it to report, causing it to stop it in the midway. Even if I try to move it and let it go automatically, it somehow keeps looping the report by visiting each dishes and then stop it, yet again. I believe it has to do with the new terrain in this update.

Crafting doesnt work. I've tried searching online but no same issue, basically my bench doesnt work, at all. I put two large wooden debris on it, nothing, only grab option. I try to make a molotov with a bottle with gasoline and two papers (tried crumpled, not crumpled, trash paper), nothing, only grab option available.

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send pic here for more context 

Where are you hovering over the workbench? it has to be the top of it

you need 4 debris bro

hey, I found a bug  where when you put your FOV at 120 the terrain gets really funky, it renders it like a little offset, so when there's small stuff like trash on the ground, you cant see it because its covered by the ground, also when you get in the ATV the FOV goes to the default value, you have to zoom in and then it'll switch back to 120 FOV

Accidentally put a kerfur (orange) wheel into an open container. This apparently seperated the wheel and when activating kerfur, the wheel flew around the garage, causing minor mayhem (havok perhaps?) and I can now not disassemble this wheel-less kerfur, nor send it to do anything.

if upgrades menu is open on computer screen, when you press E to use the computer it will buy or sell a random upgrade. to avoid this, always open a different tab before you leave the computer

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So idk if anyone else has encountered this, but when i sent kerfur out to get reports from the satellites  "lima" "romeo" and "tango" kerfur'a pathfinding would consistently get it stuck on a cliff overlooking the lake near tango when it left from romeo to go to tango. i tried to move kerfur with the cameras screen but when i gave control back to kerfur it decided to redo the whole reports starting with lima instead of one of the satellites that's closer at the time.

this has happened to me multiple times

well i'm glad it's not just a thing that happened to only me, i'm sad that this has happened multiple times for you. does it only happen when kerfur goes from romeo to tango? or are there other spots that kerfur get's stuck at? besides the big trash containers by the alpha base.

its when kerfur goes from sierra/romeo to tango. he does get stuck on boxes in the base but i have cleared those out the way. dont feel bad its just an excuse to stop hiding in my base lol

normally i wouldn't feel bad to go do the thing myself. but on that day for some reason the hash code for lima wasn't working. i double checked it for typos and even sent in a second drive box with what the code was and it just wouldn't work. idk if that's also a bug that sometimes the hash codes you type don't work, even if there's no typos.

and one time on a reload all of the hash codes on the paper didn't work. even though they were all correct.

From the 0.8.1 changelog, this seems to be fixed already. It is likely just messed up pathfinding from the new terrain. Kerfur trying to get reports from Romeo/Sierra then Tango seems to cause it and there isn't much you can do aside from manually getting the reports for the day.

I went to go change the video on the small tv and then my game just crashed, has this happened to anybody else?

Not the same issue but I grabbed a medium TV and the game crashed as well, was just a one-off and I cannot figure out how to recreate it

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Об этом уже писалось, но я тоже напишу.
1. Когда играешь на русском, все ответы на сигналы приходят пустыми. Конечно это не проблема если знаешь английский, но всё же обидно.
2. Грязь возвращается после каждого перезахода в игру. Ладно если бы игра чекала время и допустим тебя не было неделю и всё запачкалось, но я просто вышел и зашёл в один день. Помыл пока только верхний этаж, но всё же обидно, решил пока особо не мыть ничего.
3. Если включаю весь свет на базе, у меня fps падает почти до 10, даже с низкими настройками игры. Но выходя или даже просто отвернувшись от неё в гараже, всё подскакивает до 30-45(иногда 50). 
4. Не столько баг, но всё же. Мне кажется Керфусы стали глупее, они не обходят препятствия как раньше, а пытается всё пройти напролом. Мой Омега умудряется застревать на базе следуя за мной, просто в коробке или стеллаже. Возможно мне кажется и так было раньше, я просто я давно не заходил в предыдущую версию.

Managed to escape from one of those glowing yellow balls after it grabbed me by managing to climb back onto my ATV and driving away, after i got back to the base and got of the ATV I noticed that I couldn't move correctly WASD no longer followed where the mouse was pointing and after sitting in the chair inside I couldn't move at all.

Чёрный экран на версии 8.0 курсор видно звуки слышно предметы могу брать токо чёрный экран не вижу нечег

Resetting "Vehicle" for a save does nothing. ATV got stuck in the lake, so deep that the hook couldn't reach it.

Only reset which works on the ATV is "Events and objects", I tested all of them one by one several times.  This is annoying because it removes all items you have, so the choice is restart the game or live without ATV.

You can buy a diving mask and easily pull out your ATV

Unsure if this was a one time thing or not. 

If the player gets on the ATV while falling (In an attempt to negate fall damage, perhaps) they will die, presumably of fall damage. This might have been a thing for past versions but I haven't tested.

Провода электро передач появляются

Я подозреваю что это именно провода ибо с ними часто были визуальные баги

Это параметр солнечных лучей, попробуй отключить этот параметр и проверь остался ли баг или нет

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Проект супер, Обнова тоже, главное не свернуть на путь донат помойки, жду игру в Staem, я очень хочу чтобы она была бесплатна, но были платные длс для поддержки проекта, но все равно я бы купил 

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I noticed two things today, one small, one more just annoying than anything. And a third thing that might just be my incompetence. 

The medium flag has a heavier weight listed in the store than the large flag, not sure if this is intentional.

Secondly, I ordered a big couch and was using the gravity gun to move the box that it came in. I got about half way where I was going (to the windmill) when the box finally broke, but no couch came out. It also might have left the gravity gun in "grabbed" mode, but I was able to get out of that easily enough. No couch back at the base either, she's just gone. (Edit: couch returned on reload)

Third, the motor at the top of the windmills are easy to get stuck in. I'm assuming it's intentional that it can suck items through the force of the motor running (I tried jamming it with a crowbar), but if you crouch jump into it, you get stuck in the middle of the motor. Again, this is just my own incompetence but I figured I'd put it here. 

Also, are the floors of the windmill interior at the top intentionally supposed to drop items through the floor? I came back and several items were knocked over entirely inside and several others had flown out (through the walls? Floors?) and were now all over the place due to it being up on the hill.  I figured it has to do with how the location of items is stored considering the top of the windmill rotates and may not be in the same position as where the items would need. Would be cool to be able to turn that into a little hideaway but as of now it's not possible. 

Oh I guess one more thing, any time I put multiple TVs out, the audio output on them stop working (unless I reload a few times). Like if there's already a TV in the base (off) and I run across the map to where I've put one in a transformer already, the audio won't play out at the transformer TV, it'll only play back at the base even though that TV is still off. The video still will be working, but audio is played where the other (off) TV is. 

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new save and the centipede wolfgang spawned in my base  edit  reloading the save resets him

The corner near the entrance of the research facility has a hole in this spot where the lighting is different and you can crawl under the map/throw items here

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This is a feature that the developer left, there should be a note about it

Yellow Argemia plush seems to be unsummonable. Several attempts were made to obtain the plush to no avail. The Cyan plush is still summonable, if this detail helps.

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@mrdrnose, I've been having fps issues last couple days.. can usually hit 80fps on a computer restart for a while and eventually it drops to 60.. last couple days ive just sat at 45, without a whole lot of fluctuations (EDIT, it actually jumps from around 40-50 it seems).. I noticed the tv playing videos drops me around 5 fps, but id still average like 55-57.. I recently finished cleaning up the transformers so i got rid of a lot of trash. Throwing the tv into the bin didnt help lol. I'm also on day 46 I should mention. I cant get above 50 fps or even close to 60 despite a restart and ive tried messing with a save reset as well, its odd. Maybe I can send you my save file?

MrDrNose...the trash bags weights please...its been 50 years

Already fixed in 0.8.1, we just have to wait.

It was fixed in .8.0d just for it to break again on E the wait is agonizing but yes. You are correct 

In the tutorial you can actually clean up a signal more than 3 times, resulting in the light of the disk to turn off. Haven't gotten to the stage in the game where I could do that myself yet, so I don't know how the disc would behave when turned in. Discs can be emptied without problems however, and they act like normal. 


There's also a deep hole on the sand bank that will cause an ATV to get stuck there with no way to retrieve it. Resetting the vehicle will not work, as the vehicle will still stay at that position.


Probably not fixable due to physics, but when you push down a glowstick hard enough into the ground it will lock onto the surface but vibrate violently, causing it to be difficult to grab again. Tested on the ramp to the garage.

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im having  a problem
so i got the game and played it the next day the frequency and polarities knobs arent working and the downloading thing isnt working either (yes the image is from the tutorial bc it effects the tutorial and base game itself and idk how to fix it i tried redownloading it too)

You need to press and hold the E button, then use the mouse wheel to change the filter values. To save the signal, you need to wait until not only the signal is loaded, but also the detector status

why is the universe mars

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update the game

thx

если упасть с квадроцикла с керфуром то керфур развалится а вот все предметы экипированные на керфуре куда то пропадают. керфура то собрать можно но вот с его одеждой можно попрощаться. или просто я ни чего не смог найти?

они падают прямо на том месте, где развалился керфур, но если это случилось где-то не на ровном месте, они могли куда-то укатиться(

возможно, опишу софтлок не к текущей версии, а в принципе в игре. игра сохранилась прям перед смертью. теперь при заходе на сейв мгновенная смерть... обидно так сейв терять. хорошо, что это в песочнице было, не сильно критично

Garbage bag roll, which should be about the size and weight of one (1) burrito, is prohibitively voluminous. The equivalent twelve filled garbage bags, on the other hand, take up relatively little inventory space.

Surely, this is a backwards.

Theres a bug where the drive port will break and not alow me to put any drives in. Please fix this.

Have a friend that had the evil kerfus spawn and was attacking him. He restarted the game (I forget why) and evil ker was gone but his music is still playing.

my mouse is not Centered I tried to change the resolution but I cant for some reason

The playback panel has the drive port quite a bit out of place and not aligning correctly.

Playing on a high FOV "decimates" the terrain. Here are a few examples.

FOV above 115 degrees:

FOV under 115 degrees:

All signals excepts cool ones (Objects and Black Hole) are the same on my computer and on my freind too

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Hey MrDrNose. The area outlined here doesn't have any collision to it. If you walk onto it, you can walk underneath the base.

Intentional

Hello everyone. This kind of incident happens in my game.
For some reason, the lighting works crookedly in the game. The same location "Training" is half without light, and the other part is in total darkness. Even the flashlight doesn't work in this darkness. I also went to the usual level, where the Antennas have no lighting and the base is as dark as in the "Training". I wanted to play the update, but here's the problem : (
I don't play on Windows, but on Linux (ArchLinux) through the Wine program.
Maybe there are just some libraries missing?
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Выловила пару багов:

1. По какой-то причине иногда отключается скроллинг предметов в инвентаре (сверху, не в самом инвентаре), приходится выбирать предмет нажатием кнопки. Неудобно, особенно когда надо от кого-то драпать и срочно забираться на дерево.

2. Иногда, забираясь на дерево с крюком, сожно насмерть застрять в текстуре коры.

3. Пара кусков жареной рыбы (один из видов среднего размера) не убирается в инвентарь, если держать в руке. Сменив кусочек на другой предмет, нямка повисает в воздухе и так там и остаётся, пока не забрать.

4. Ближе к 30 дню выключились ветряные мельницы. Они поворачиваются вокруг своей оси, но лопасти вертятся только в том случае, если отвести от них камеру, так, чтобы они были в уголке экрана. Настройки графике на максималках, ничего не менялось, они просто перестали крутиться. В чем может быть причина, кто знает?

5. Это очень странная штука, но сквозь главное окно в центре обработки сигналов не видно, по каким проводам бежит ток, когда отключаются трансформаторы. В начале игры видно, спустя какое-то время - нет. Это странно.

6. На видео с камеры дрона при включенном рассеянии солнечных лучей появляются чёрные точечные полосы от лучей.

7. Бесящий баг, когда сигнал после обработки не загружается сразу на диск. Надо вытащить диск, вставить обратно и после этого загрузить сигнал, раздражает невероятно.

8. Светящиеся палочки со временем понемногу отходят от поверхностей, к которым прицеплены.

Не баг, но пожелание: при патрулировании базы керфур-0 сбивает со своих мест всё, что расставлено вдоль стен, потому что это видимо самый короткий для него маршрут, это грустно, он сворачивает столы)) Вот бы добавить ему пару анимаций простоя, потому что стоит он и сиротинится, а патрулировать включать опасно, кошконяша устраиват ХАОС))

I apologize if this has already been reported but I've been running into an issue that wasn't this much of an issue in the previous build. I try to sleep and I get the "I can sense something." notification but I can still pause and save. I went outside and ran around to base seeing if something would either attack or make some noise. Nothing. I didn't thoroughly look because I'm scared. This game triggers some weird paranoia for me. I have no clue what it is but I think it has something to do with the sounds. Not sure though. That doesn't matter, the sleep thing is obnoxious. Happens almost every night.

Empty garbage bags weigh WAY too much. Also, the sings seem a bit messed up that may just be me.

Any idea when we'll get a fix on losing signal download progress when entering a save? EX. you have a signal downloading, save your game, leave, re-enter and the signal is no longer downloading.

I have 24 fps at the start and when I play for a long time it’s already 15 or 10 fps and I’m patient but I have black stripes and I saw other people’s messages, maybe the problem is the sun’s rays which, according to people, hits the walls and I can play but the fps may drop when I some texture quality settings, but the shaders do not affect the rendering, but the light will be good and loading video memory 1.1 GB is a good digital file, but the game has low fps, do you know how to increase the fps, it was somewhere around 30 or 39 or 21 fps

у меня фпс 24 при старте а когда долго играю уже 15 ил 10 фпс и я терплю но у меня черные полоски и я видел сообщения других людей может беда солнечными лучами которые по мнению людей бьется сквозь стены и я могу играть но фпс может упасть когда я некторые настройки качества текстур а но шейдыры не влияют работу рендера но свет станет хорошим и загрузка видео памяти 1.1 гб это хорошая цивра но у игры низкий фпс знаете как поднять фпс что было где то 30 или 39 или 21 фпс

and I'm used to playing at very low fps, at least 20 fps or 17 fps, and I can play the game without problems when the fps is 17 or 13 fps and I have a laptop that has integrated graphics and a discrete video card (intel graphics hd 4400 2 gig) (nvidia geforce 840m 2giga gddr3) and my processor fits the standards (intel i5 4210u 1.70 2.40ghz 2 cores 4 threads) and the laptop heats up to 97 degrees during gameplay and I think the cooling is dusty and the thermal paste needs to be replaced that the laptop is 9 years old

и я привык играть в очень низких фпс не ниже 20 фпс или 17 фпс и я могу играть игру без проблем когда фпс будет 17 или 13 фпс и у меня ноутбук который имеет встройнную графику и дискретную видеокарту(intel graphics hd 4400 2 гига)(nvidia geforce 840m 2гига gddr3) и у меня процессор подходит фосиных дел(intel i5 4210u 1.70 2.40ghz 2 ядра 4 потока)и ноутбук прегревается до 97 градусов при гемплее и я думаю охлаждение пыльное и термопасту нужно заменять что ноутбуку 9 летний

yes and I use google translate and forgive the translation errors of the translator from Russian to English

да и я использую google translate и простите ошибки перевода переводчика на руский на англиский

The button to change screen resolution has no numbers on it clicking on it does nothing, changing automatic screen res does nothing, now i feel it is worth noting that my PC is OOOOOLD but screen res is the only problem for me, performance is great.

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Endless spawn of "cyborg boars", sometimes kerfur-o gets bugged in the props that the player places and does not go around them, and this is only when you call him to fix something, etc., well, please fix the bug with the light, fps drops with light to 15-25, I have GT 1030 but people with RTX even lag with light! (I'll continue about the boars, if this is not a bug then remove the endless spawn of boars, they really interfere with the gameplay and interfere with understanding the dots on the radar, besides the world is littered with their meat, this is very annoying, well, you can spawn 2-5 boars during the whole game BUT they spawn on CD.

Kerfur omega cant go from Romeo to Tango, for what I seen on her camera she cant go down a montain close to the river left of Tango due how steep it is.

Just in case its missed, empty individual trash bags weights are very screwed up. They were fixed in .8.0d, but broke again in current .8.0e. They are some of the heaviest items in the game now

I do not know if it is necessary to write about such errors here.

But I started to have fps in the game after the 40th day. For some reason, fps began to fall in the main room and bedroom from the usual 40 to 11, or even 5 fps.

I thought it was due to rosital's visits to the endless hole, but no, after this event, FPS never returned to normal. I reduced the graphics in the settings, but it did not give any effect, I repeatedly re-entered the game, but it was useless.

I don't know what to do with it, the FPS drops in these two rooms, on the street in the basement and other parts of the map, the FPS is normal.

When im start the game, a window pops up like beware of such and such topics, after that a black screen and a crash

When the "Wisp survival instructions" thing crash lands in my story save it keeps crashing my game, I am not allowed to progress any further.

Update your game

Thank you.

Didn't realize there was an update for 0.8.

I brought a portable cooking plate and when I place it down on top of a small box it started to freak out and no clipped under the base, I think the cause was the charge cable it have wich spawned below the plate inside the box causing the freak out.

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but I troubleshooted the heck out of it and haven't figured it out. For some reason the game spikes my CPU temperature to a ridiculous degree. Other games barely going over 60c while VOTV hit's 90c and while spiking erratically from 60c and up. I have a thread that goes over all my attempts to resolve this. 

https://itch.io/t/4108139/black-screen-full-computer-crash#post-10990794

Not a major bug, don't even know if this is a bug, buy Dr. Ena sends her email about the drive when you CALL the drone to pick up the box, not when its delivered.

something does seen to be wrong with the drive delivery. I was watching The Librarian, and he was getting the "too noisy, cant hear anything" message and not being paid for the drivers even tho they were all lvl 3 

I have noticed i cant hold more then 1 garbage bag roll in my inventory, and even when i take everything else out of my inventory i can  still only hold 1 anyone else having this issue?

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Yes, many many people have posted it here (good). But yeah, empty individual trash bags are bugged right now, one of the heaviest items in the game. They were fixed in .8.0d but broke again in current 8.0e sadly 

Yeah I thought my save was corrupted at first lol

Только-что обнаружил в обучении. Если в состоянии рэгдолла, находясь в воде зажать пробел, то после выхода из состояния рэгдолла можно вылететь с большой скоростью
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Just discovered this in training. If you hold down the spacebar while in ragdoll while in the water, you can fly out at high speed after exiting the ragdoll state.
Русский/English (Google translator)

Боюсь вы об этом уже знаете, но я не нашёл такого-же обращения. Если в настройках угол обзора стоит выше 90°, то текстуры мира не стоят на поверхности. Надеюсь я понятно объясню. К примеру если положить предмет на землю с обычными настройками то можно будет увидеть предмет. А если угол обзора будет больше девяноста градусов то текстура земли станет выше предмета, и предмет нельзя будет увидеть.
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I'm afraid you already know about this, but I haven't found the same address. If the viewing angle in the settings is higher than 90°, then the textures of the world are not on the surface. I hope I can explain it clearly. For example, if you put an object on the ground with normal settings, you will be able to see the object. But if the viewing angle is more than ninety degrees, then the texture of the ground will be higher than the object, and the object will not be visible.
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После каждого запуска игры или выхода из режима обучения происходит "чистка": настройки возвращаются к стандартным и теряется достижение о прохождении обучения (поэтому нет возможности запустить режим истории)

After each start of the game or exiting the "tutorial", a “cleanup” occurs: the settings return to default and the achievement for completing the training is lost (therefore, it is not possible to start the story mode).

Привет, игра переодически, когда происходит автосейв, зависает. При этом дает зайти в меню на ескейп, но после этого ее не возможно свернуть через alt+tab, она висит поверх всех окон и не дает себя закрыть. В диспетчере задач значится как "не отвечает". Единственное что спасает это открыть второй рабочий стол и закрыть принудительно. И еще, не знаю баг это или фича, но если маленький предмет, типа бабочки или очков (и похожих по размеру и тонкости предметов), упал на землю, то найти его без пиксельхантинга просто невозможно. Он падает на коллизию которая чуть чуть ниже текстуры земли.

Don't know about the autosave issue, but small objects not being visible on the ground may be an FOV issue if it is set above the default. Higher FOV results in the terrain visually becoming warped, possibly hiding small or thin objects beneath the ground.

So I jumped off a small cliff and rag dolled when I hit the floor, as per usual, but when I was getting up, I clipped through the terrain and fell through the map. This has happened many times over when I updated my save. This wasn't a problem before 0.8.0e build.

half the store disappears when you stand near the computer and autosave occurs
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Я тоже думал что половина магазина изчезает, но это глюк с нажатием клавиши E. Приглядись там в строке поиска введена одна буква, надо ее просто стереть и все будет нормально

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Бро, тебе реально памятник поставить нужно! Огромное спасибо, очень помог! 

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Omega Kerfur seems to get stuck at the cliff close to the lake. I managed to get it reproduceable as well. When he tries to get to Tango on a hash code run, from another location behind that cliff, he walks to the edge and then stops right beside a tree. When i reset via green arrow control, he retries to get the reports again, starting from the first again, to then get stuck at the same spot again. Managed get that to happen three times with different hash codes. As long, as Tango has to be reached from behind that cliff, the pathfinding seems to fail.

Not sure its just weird thing on my side, but wanted to report that nonetheless. Im running 0.8e

Likewise

cant access 0.8.0, already updated the game but when I lauch its 0.7.0 again.

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did you either completely overwrite/delete .7? Save files wont get touched from the main folder being deleted so u can just go crazy with deleting all that

Kerfur-O permanently stuck in flesh pit. Kerfur-O got taken in the flesh pit during "Do not open locker" event. I opened the locker to crash game, but now Kerfur-O stuck and has not teleported out (it's been 5 in-game days).

Omega Kerfur constantly gets stuck everywhere

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Okay, maybe someone has run into something like this. This error pops up every time I'm afk (not doing anything in the game for more than about ten seconds, standing still), or when I try to access the browser or anything else outside of the game. I've reinstalled drivers, selected all sorts of settings in the Nvidia control panel, created TdrDelay in the registry, nothing helps. This issue is only in this game. I have an i5-12450H, 16gb. This bug is not in previous versions of the game, only in the last one. The game itself runs smoothly in 60-70 FPS screenshot

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Got same shit with crash on my Radeon 6700XT, game wents black, my screen loses videocard connection at all, than this (your) error arrives, i have Line 198 tho, you have 202. Happens ABSOLUTELY  randomly. Always loses my detector progress and shit. Extremely annoying. NOSE FIX THIS SHIT I BEG YOU

ALSO game crashes randomly when there's too much collisions, but not too much, not even lagging or fps drops, just put 5 items on the crafting table. Just says FATAL ERROR! All is fine and i can save seconds before this shit...

1. Не знаю должно ли так быть но, пустые мешки для мусора весят много даже больше чем наполненные мешки для мусора

2. Омега Керфур отображается на радаре как две точки (зеленая и бирюзовая) по крайней мере так происходит с синим омега керфуром

3. У базы река не полностью соприкасается с берегом из за чего образовалась линия из воздуха

4. Когда я отдал лист омега керфуру  с надписью "ты выйдешь за меня?" чтобы тот сделал репорт и ответил мне, он пришел, о отдал мне два листа:один с ответом другой без (просто репорт)

I can’t install, it says the error is prohibited by the site, what should I do

i try to all the drone but it dosent work and i dont see the circle is that normal?

The new pick up and drop area for drone is outside the base now, open garage door and u see it

Unfortunately I'm still running into the Achievement Bug with the Tutorial, I've tried leaving as soon I get the Achievement, then I've tried 'completing' the last part to see if that keep it. Neither seem to work, what I have noticed is the Achievement is still there before I got to the next part of run. Hope this is descriptive enough to not be hard understand, but not give away what it is. Cause I'm not sure if this be considered a spoiler or not, so sorry if this isn't enough or not correct way go about this.

The power cord for the Battery Charger gets stuck deep below the floor when taken out of the delivery crate. 
I noticed a similar thing happening with the frame. 
Taking the Battery Charger into your inventory, from the delivery crate and then placing it, gives the same results. The power cord gets dragged into the underworld and the Charger with it.

This happens with all items that have a cord on them. There should be a button where the cord connects to the object that will "retract" the cord so it is able to be grabbed.

I have encountered two bugs.


[MILD SPOILER FOR STORY MODE]


Bug 1: The probe that warns you about the yellow wisps is causing my radar entity alert alarm the constantly beep.


Bug 2: Kerfus Omega is currently running a loop collecting the same reports over and over again.

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1: You could try removing it from the ground. Get a hook, attach the obelisk it to the ATV, and try to drive away from it.
2: Are you at all manually controlling Kerfur or reloading the save? That can cause them to try and collect the same reports again.

Same, but he randomly stops moving at one place. "Fixing" him just makes him restart the process

If your reports are set to get one hash from Tango then it's a pathfinding issue, It cannot get to Tango and you will have to manually do the reports yourself

I see, thank you :D

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When trying to nail items into position, sometimes when I log out, and log back into the game, my nails will be moved off to the side, yet still registered as stuck in an object. The object I nailed down isn't nailed down however, the nail just seems to move several cm to the side, and stick itself there. 

Delivery drone will sometimes get randomly stuck and softlock your game if you saved recently.

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EVERY fking 20-30 minutes i get FATAL ERROR! or D3D device missing, what the bullsh*t? I'm hella tired of that. 0.8.0e, RX6700XT, ryzen 5600x, win 10

EVERY TIME JUST OUT OF NOWHERE! 20% chance of D3D device and 80% fatal error. No events can exist cuz 30 minutes isn't enough

I only had this issue like twice back in 0.6 and haven't gotten it since. From everything I have seen online about this kind of issue, you gotta fix this one yourself, not much nose can do.

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Oh my god i tried everything
SO THE FIX IS:

You have to remove ANY OVERCLOKING from your BIOS (UEFI) system. Including: RAM, GPU, CPU, and even if this didn't work - apply UNDERclocking to CPU (i know it's terrible), but since i've reduced cpu limits and settled DRAM speed to basic (3200 mhz) the issue been fixed

The game became stable and got no crash or D3D error in 5 hours straight

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There seems to be an issue when O-Kerfus goes to get reports on Tango, November, Sierra. I'm not entirely sure when this happens, but He stops completely up around Tango (i think) and can't move by himself. I have tried to move him manually with both the computer controls and physically, but after "un-stucking" him, it seems he restarts the process of getting the reports. I think he gets 2 of the hash codes, but as previously mentioned, he restarts the collection process and runs back to the first satellite after "fixing" him, just to get stuck at the same spot again. I am on version 0.8.0 (image is where o-kerfus stops up on a hill just by Tango)

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Location of Kerfus Omega

location of Kerfus Omega
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Seems like it's fixed in 0.8.1

There's no 0.8.1 yet..

I worded it badly, the changelog (discord) seems to imply it is fixed.

I double checked at the time of the post, It was still present. Do you mean this is fixed in the next patch?

Yes

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You only get cancer from radiation or smoking as far as I am aware, if you are continuously getting cancer without smoking, there is some form of radioactive material nearby that you are constantly going near.

Oh dang, ok! I wonder if it was the exploded parts or meat from [redacted] that was radioactive, which unfortunately was in my garage/base LOL. I can't imagine it was anything else in my base causing it, and I hadn't left my base at all after that event. If that's the case I'll go ahead and delete this post and just be more careful on my next run.

What is [redacted] for a better idea on what it could be? Obv you don't have to say it directly but some kind of hint toward it.

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Hmm. I'm not really sure how to describe it without just outright saying the spoiler. It's a certain evil orange machine with spikes ?

Like I mentioned in the now deleted post, I killed it in the garage with a gas canister and I assumed the smoke from the canister explosion/the resulting fire I put out gave Dr. Kel cancer. I was fine beforehand, and I hadn't left the base afterwards, so I can only guess that [redacted] became radioactive after it's final explosion/death? I hadn't cleaned everything up yet before it became a race to try and gets meds to stave off the sickness... and I actually kept the panel it dropped as a trophy lol.

I actually put the panel and the heart it dropped into the mailbox, which seems to safely store them? My new run has been going fine at least lol. But! I did just boot up new save to test this and dropped both the panel and heart to wait on top of them to see if it would affect Dr. Kel, and nothing seemed to happen? Maybe I just needed to try for longer. Unsure why I was continuously contracting cancer at my base after the attack despite taking multiple doses of cancer meds, and why it persisted even after I reset the save to day 1 (unless that's intentional for the cancer mechanics).

Ah, when that thing dies. It outright just drops a Radioactive Capsule, a small, gray metal cylinder that can kill you even just by standing near it for a slightly extended period of time.

OOF of course. I must have just not seen it before I started scrambling for meds 🤦‍♂️ Well, lesson learned! Sorry for leaving messages here in bug reporting over this !

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i am trying to download it but it is telling me that it is incompatable    is there a soloution or a workaround to this issue?

ATV randomly teleported away at night. And is now out of bounds at watchtower. Reseting vehicles does nothing.

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something with the battery charger's cord is bugged. i bought two, because the first one disappeared and i couldn't figure out where it went.

the second one i tried to place on the ground and it instantly flew into a corner, collided with the wall, and exploded into debris. it looked like the cord was stuck somewhere farther away. it seems that many things with cords spawn in with their cords suck in the ground.

edit: i forgot to also report that i ran into an issue where if i sliced a potato before cooking it, it would stay raw no matter how much i cooked it. have not tested with other sliceable food items.

blue plushie this one under water on -309 394 cordintes is under textures not under water there is no way to pick it up without cheats

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Strangely, I picked it up without any problems. Check your viewing angle settings (FOV), it distorts the landscape.

Use "winter mode" in this place. Plushie will lie on ice.

Not sure if it was bad timing or something but when Fast Shadow Figure spawned and chased me around a bit, I thought i lost it and went back to the satellite room to place a drive in a slot. he faze through the terminal, touched me and the game had a fatal error. i thought it was part of the game but then he spawned again and nothing happened. mind that was the first time i have seen him.

Don't think that is the Fast Shadow Figure, just a new one of these entities looks similar and does what you described.

Am I stupid, or trash furnace doesn't waste any gas?

It doesn't use any gas. It actually creates it, fully burning items in there produces a bit of fuel, with coal seeming to be the best source.

wow, thank you so much

Unsure if anyone else has this problem but whenever I load into a 0.8 save (newly created as I have no other 0.8 saves) the screen completely freezes up but I can still move around and interact with things. I got no clue if its my graphics card, any settings I have or what but any help would be appreciated. redownloading does not help either

Unsure how I fixed it but I think if I have some/all my graphics set below 4 my screen stays frozen, since I set them higher and it magically just worked. I can test it out a bit more later

It's day 41 over here and my Kerfus Omega is just self-destructing randomly

idk what to do cuz whenever I repair it and turn it on, it just dies in a few seconds.

Does anyone know what this is?

Nevermind i rentered the save and he works now

There is an event going on, you should try and figure out what is going on next time this happens.


I think it's not OK, yep?

the abandoned kerfurs if left outside base, after relogging will clip into the ground of the base.

в игре есть дикое смещение мыши из-за чего работать с компьютером и меню крайне сложно

Mismatched screen resolution, change it in the settings.

I have to admit that I'm not entirely sure what mouse setting it's meant to change, but when I set "Invert Y axis" nothing seems to happen at all. I've only gotten as far as the tutorial in the game and I happen to be one of those crazy people that likes their camera with the Y axis inverted, but as far as I can tell I can't do that.

Are you pressing apply in the bottom right corner of the options menu? I just tried inverting both x and y axis and it works. Although i have no idea how someone could play like that lol

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Yep, pressing apply. I haven't tried it outside the tutorial, so it's possible it's a game mode thing, but it's also possible it's a me thing, which would make me sad because the game's freshly installed. As far as playing that way, I chalk it up to being a trackball user and growing up with airplane controls on most game cameras lol

EDIT: Tried it in story mode and no change there either.

Oop, I happened to leave that setting toggled on exiting the game, and when I loaded it back up, it worked! Crisis averted!

That's great. Have fun with the game! 

Привет, помогите пожалуйста у моего друга по какой-то причине не работает комп в игре, он может только включить его и зайти, любые кнопки при нажатии не реагируют, то есть он не может покупать, смотреть задания, камеры, и прокачиваться. Самая новая версия. Если получится отправлю ссылку на видео

Буквально двумя сообщениями выше та же проблема и ответ

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Floating, ungrabbable, unholdable, uncollectable empty can.

Empty cans seem prone to having their prop interactions broken. A moment ago I just removed a bunch of empty cans from the trash bin you see there; when I removed one too many and didn’t have space for it in my inventory, it immediately dropped the empty can.

But instead of falling to the ground, it fixed itself in place where the prop was spawned out of my inventory. Now I can’t interact with it – it can’t be grabbed, held, used (well I guess it can; it says it is empty, so that technically works), or collected. The can is not being grabbed. It is hovering in place at mid-height above the ground.

There are others in my base that I’d tried to put into an open container, one of those little blue plastic bins you happen across sometimes, but three clipped out of the bin and did this to themselves there.

Is there, uh, some way to clean up these “stuck” empty cans?

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I don't know if it would work here, but i got another prop acting like this and used one of the blue plastic crate open containers to fix it by putting it around the object so it is inside the crate

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I first started playing a couple days ago and seemed to be going through smoothly. When I logged back into my save game yesterday it crashed with this error message a couple minutes in. I created a new save and it seemed to be okay but eventually it crashed with the same message. 

Update: I realized that having shadows turned on completely maxed out my GPU usage so I think that might be it. Like turning up shadows one tick shot the usage from 60% to 100%. Other video settings don't seem to be affected.

I have an RX 7600.

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Also Kerfer keeps getting stuck when going to fix servers. Every time. Then he runs out of juice and I have to run to go pick him up.

Update: Okay I watch a video on how to control him I didnt know you could do that, sorry.

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So I was standing above a storage crate and had multiple cans of food. So I was directly above it looking down. And I "Placed all the cans in the crate. Unfortunately, what happened was the cans stacked and glitched out and a can remained in the air. I could open it with a can opener but could not grab or hold it and it didnt seem to interact when hit with other objects.

Heres more photos of the can floating . I was able to make the can glitch again and float in the air. I couldnt get it to move by sweeping it and I tried hitting it with a hammer a dozen times to bread it with no luck.

heres a book under the can.


I was playing and I randomly fell through the map. I couldn't jump out. Even when crouch jumping.

11/5/2024
So something that I just noticed that happens is when I crumple up a single sheet of paper it duplicates the sheet and then when you try to look at the duplicate it crashes. Well, my game freezes. I've done it with a paper sheet I crafted and a sheet I tore from a notebook.

When the sheet is crumpled in the hand the crumpled paper falls but then there is a duplicate sheet in your hand, then when you go to look at that it crashes.

When a sheet is on the ground and you use it, you can then crumple it, the crumpled sheet will fall and there will be a duplicate in its place. When you try to USE the duplicate the game crashes.

The floating can is because the can was "inside" basket. the plastic baskets have a weird trait that you can put things into them and then pick the basket up and the items will become "attached" to the basket. The same happened to me with a piece of paper. I took the basket and scooped the paper with the basket and it unfroze it. As for the falling through the map. That part of the base hasn't had any collision for a while. i think it's just meant to be a teaser for something to come or just an easter egg to people who are really looking around the base. And you can climb out of there (and a lot of other places) by double tapping space against the wall while already jumping, this causes you to climb over obstacles like that area and fences.

Omega Kerfus keeps going to the cliffs between Sierra and Tango and refusing to move. I still can move kerfus out of the spot but they go right back and refuse to do anything. Happens on all of my saves, new ones included.

Hello. What to do if when you scroll the shift speed toggle switch, the sound is played but the speed remains equal to 0.

I was attacked by the ghost deer as usual, but this time it didn't despawn after the attack. Instead, it seems to have "taken a seat" at the main workstation chair. I know it is "seated" there because I can't use the chair myself. (I can still use the computer however).

https://imgur.com/a/0Y2ZLgw

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Not sure if this was all a bug or one part one thing, and one part another, but I'll explain in detail.

Like a few others I was able to run the game on previous versions at 60+ FPS on max settings. In v0.8.0 no matter how far I lower my settings I cannot get the game to run above 30-40 FPS. However, this is exclusive to the base and the main room itself.

A breakdown of v0.8.0 I get:

  • Outside - 60+ FPS
  • Base Hallway/Garage - 45-55 FPS
  • Main Room/Bedroom - 30-45 FPS

Furthermore, as we can't rearrange the camera order on the computer, I needed to work out the number order of my cameras and then put them back in the order I wanted, so I collected them all and took them to the Main Room. Dropping the first 5 there was no problem and I mounted them on the wall. I went to drop the next five and they all started going nuts, spinning and flying around the room like they were possessed. I tried to grab them only for out of nowhere the sleep demon grabbed me despite still being at 25% on Sleep, and I was suddenly in a white void with a chair. Confused I tried to find a way out only for the game to suddenly crash with a UE4 error.

Weirdly when I reloaded I found the game had saved at the exact moment I'd been grabbed, with no more issues other than the cameras were still spinning out all over the place.

While I don't know what was going, if it was intentional or anything like that, it has been suggested by a friend that the drop in performance, the behaviour of the cameras, and the crash, all being in the main room, maybe  the result of a possible memory leak. I'm no expert so I can't be sure, but thought best to mention it anyways.

Quick side note. The rain still falls through inside the new Transformer buildings.

The white space with the chair is an event caused by insomnia without eyes, it can haunt the player. Apparently, the event has no logical conclusion, so the game crashes here are common.

Ahh, good to know. Weirdly coincidental timing.
Still, seems the main room is a focal point of performance drops and weird physics bug outs.

static lights take up more resources than dynamic ones like lamps. try turning the base lights off

Did you try turning off shadows? I had a massive reduction in GPU usage when I turned them off. After that a stable 60fps.

I was calmly cleaning the base, and in the background I had a song played by Argemwell, the song suddenly died down, I went to check what happened. I arrive, but argemwell is gone and all that’s left of her is a hook. The entire time she was at the base, she was suspended from the ceiling and the cockroaches could not eat her. Any thoughts?

Unsure of if this was commented already but I started a new save, went over to the satellite with the burger and when I dropped from it to the ground (a small height) I took an insane amount of damage and immediately died. Only explanation I can find is that I fell in between the ground and the satellite's base since I kept hearing a continuous hitting sound.

Not sure if this has been reported yet, but within the first 30 seconds of starting the campaign, the game created a bug that made it impossible to move except for jumping and  crouching. When I closed the game, I found that my arrow keys and WASD were somehow reversed outside of the game too. Not sure how this happened, as I was only running and tripping in game before this occurred. Fixed by unplugging keyboard and plugging it back in. Haven't replicated it since.

I keep running into an issue where the spectorgram visualization seems to break. Despite having it unlocked, it's stuck static and doesn't even show the animation when it's off/you don't have it. Not sure if there's something specific that's causing this issue yet. Reloading the save doesn't resolve it, and neither does closing the game entirely and restarting. 

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i just played tutorial and do upgrade 4 level check it

Kerfur-O gets stuck when they try to get  down from the cliffs east of Tango,  I know this happens when they go from Romeo to Tango but I'm not sure if the same happens with Sierra and Tango.

Hi, I've got a specific robot shaped hostile entity stuck underneath the terrain/foundation of the Foxtrot Array. 

I got a haunted Kerfus event where my kerfus went to a specific spot underneath Foxtrot. At the time I thought my Kerfus was bugged and performed a save load, fixing what I thought was bug. However this completely borked the accociated event that followed this.

The specific hostile entity mentioned above dug itself up under the terrain under Foxtrot and has been active for 6 in game days now. The music will not stop playing, and I can hear it's deathly wails deep within the foundations of Foxtrot when approaching it.

I am playing on Story mode so I do not have access to noclip. Is there any way to rescue the entity and put it out of its misery? Thanks!

Voices of the Void 0.8 hole under Foxtrot

There are no accidents in the endless mode

When u using hook on something and then on omega kerfur it just disappear

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How many people will report that Kerfur-O gets stuck on the way from Tango?

Can’t play the game anymore, I keep getting random “out of VRAM” errors followed by my GPU driver crashing so hard the entire computer has to be hard powered down and turned back on, even though there’s anywhere from 3 to 1.2 GB RAM free. I’d join the Discord, but some idiot decided that phone numbers are needed, and I’m clinically paranoid and won’t be doing that.

Game running well under Proton, low FPS in base expected given others results, well over 200+ FPS outside the base. Main issue is when trying to play a file on the Plasma TV, the game swells to completely filling 32GB RAM and crashing the game and steam. I have tried with 500MB Mp4, I tried condensing it to 200MB, I tried encoding with mp3 audio and aac audio both just to make sure it wasn't a codec issue, selecting the file in the list is fine, but as soon as you click "Play" nothing happens in game, RAM immediately swells to full and game and steam crashes within 5 or so seconds. This renders the TV completely unusable.

на 4070ti, во время эвента bad sun мой фпс умер тотально. скрина нет, так как игра вылетела оставив меня без ачивки. пресет графики на максимум+2к разрешение (120-130 фпс в самых загруженных моментах)

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In my experience, the issue of falling through the floor is common when rag-dolling from a fall whilst wearing the bike helmet. But, honestly, I think the game is perfect.

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Don't know if it's a bug or feature. I've got the cyber boars event in the endless gamemode, but this seem to be in cycle. They keep respawning for 2 ingame weeks already and im just fucking tired of them.

Maybe this will clarify, I've got lucky some days after boar invasion and got bad sun event and after that the red sky event. Don't know if it's connected tho

Edit: I've killed like 12+ of them and im on the day 56

once I enter the base, the fps lower alot. and am not sure if it's related to turning the lights on or what

I don't know if I should change anything.

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The game has a cool concept going for it, but trying to play through it was an exercise in frustration. One issue I had was the "esc" menu just stopped working after a bit, pressing escape just wouldn't do anything, I had to close the game window to get it working again, but at that point I was just too frustrated to go on. I only managed to make it to morning of the 2nd day (Tuesday).

Very cool concept and I like the art and all the weird interactions with the objects, but I think the delivery needs some work. I look forward to full release, assuming all the issues get fixed.

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Not a bug, you being unable to open the esc menu is intentional.

but, I was able to do it earlier in the game. if this is a 'feature', it's a very annoying one.

During most events, when near certain entities, or under certain other conditions, you lose the ability to pause the game or sleep. It is kind of stupid in some cases when you are constantly suffering from low stamina and something won't let you sleep.

Just a couple I've found whilst playing 0.8.0:


The data disc that appears in front of the facility, just outside the bunker, cannot be dug up.


The fishing gear cannot be dug up at all. Went back to 0.7 to check I wasn't tripping and dug it up first try.


After dying to the Bad Sun event, I was immune to it upon reloading my save to try again (Could walk around freely in the sun, no damage taken).


Default Kurfur is basically useless. Constantly getting stuck on tiny ledges and elevation changes since the map update. Requires constant manual override at the computer, or in-person collection. Not necessarily a bug and more of a design oversight

I found the fishing gear using a metal detector at the turbine closest to the entrance gate i believe. At the very least it is on the mountain near one of the turbines.

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Cyber boars appear even in Ambience Mode after day 40.

I don't want to fight pigs!  I just want to fish in peace.

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Found 2 small bugs with the tv. 1. I uploaded a large video (40+ mins) and the image would get stuck on the last frame around 29:35 whenever I would leave it running. It was only the image tho, the audio kept going. And 2. whenever I try to skip ahead in any vids it freaks out and either skips to the next video or the slider moves but the video playing doesnt change at all. 

Edit: the video also seems to restart completely if I leave it on the still frame for a while

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Баг со сдвигом мыши, что делать??

Когда захожу в игру всё нормально, но когда запускаю мир, то курсор становится фантомным, а настоящая точка контакта мыши находить гораздо выше и левее от курсора, для того что бы применить настройки нужно спустить видимый курсор в самый низ экрана что его аж не видно.

Или это настоящие кнопки опускаются по экрану, но мне всё же кажется что проблема именно в курсоре

А ещё когда ставлю на паузу то курсор не в середине экрана а в середине нижней правой четверти

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This a bug that can delete your kerfur omega. If your kerfur gets eaten and you are unlucky enought to trigger the gray events, the parts of kerfur will get stuck and will not appear outside your base.  (R.I.P kerfur omega N°1)

Я застрял в колодце. Там тупо не появился крюк с помощью которого бы я бы выбрался.помогите пжж

Я не могу заявить точно но по моему если ты там упадёшь от бессилия или голода, и потеряешь сознание, то вроде что то произойдёт и потом тебя выплюнут из колодца, но я не уверен:/

I have escaped from it with debug,thank that guy.

The hooks despear to me every time I ragdoll and its very easy to ragdoll in this game and Im tired of having to spend 50 bucks everytime I have to go somewhere, also battery flashlight moment I got teleported to a room with whole in the ground and no source of light at all with 0.4 battery charge which vanished in a moment and u basicaly cant do anything except a resatart and make sure to have batteries this time.

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You are just dropping the hooks on the ground every time you ragdoll, which is intentional. Having 0.4 battery charge with no replacements or alternative light sources and getting lost in the darkness cause of it is on you ngl.

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вот что будет если оставить камеру на стене которую ты строишь 

the blue argemia isnt spawning, i literally look in the full river and dint find it

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0.8.1b bug (river near the base)

edit: theres actually a lot of troubles with terrain in 0.8.1b

Не уверен баг или фича, но если я потеряю уровень энергии при котором могу бегать во время бега, то я буду бегать пока не остановлюсь сам, если остановлюсь то бегать больше не смогу.

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ONE EVIL KERFUR COMIN RIGHT UP!! (a murderfur spawned shortly after)

sometimes when kerfur gets possessed, it goes towards the meat pile while activated (very rare idk how it happened)

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Some 3d printables are eatable in 8.1 is that a bug or a feature?
Free food I guess!

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Crashing the ATV with Keljoy Kerfus hard enough to break them will spawn the activatible plushie AND spawn the parts to make a second kerfus omega.

i have red kerfus. I had him plugged into the wall after he died and i brought him back to base, and after i downloaded a signal i got s skull red screen that tripped the breakers. 

After power turned back on kerfus was stuck at the charge level he was at when it happened and wouldnt charge more (around 8%) I turned him back on and let his battery run out and now he wont charge above 0

bought a sheet of paper. Right clicked and selected crumple. Placed them on the work bench and they looked normal. When i picked it back up n right clicked the game froze even though time continued. 

Кто нибудь знает как перенести сохранения с 0.7 на версию 0.8

Does anyone know how to transfer saves from 0.7 to version 0.8

Просто оставь его в той же папке.

Если зайти в игру с прошлых версий, игра может сломаться. Объекты могут пропасть или находиться не на своих местах, что-то может не работать. В общем, не рекомендуется

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